From: kkont AT estia DOT iit DOT nrcps DOT ariadne-t DOT gr (Kimon Kontovasilis)
Subject: Re: Consistent mode of file-opens
11 Oct 1997 00:50:47 -0700
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To: earnie_boyd AT hotmail DOT com (Earnie Boyd)
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> >From: kkont AT estia DOT iit DOT nrcps DOT ariadne-t DOT gr (Kimon Kontovasilis)
> >Subject: Re: Consistent mode of file-opens
> >To: earnie_boyd AT hotmail DOT com (Earnie Boyd)
> >Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 17:09:16 +0200 (EET)
> >Cc: gnu-win32 AT cygnus DOT com
> ---snip---
> >I guess this renders obsolete most of my original message. However, 
> since
> >all individual utilities work adequately well with the other 
> dos-oriented
> >shells and since all the shells that I know of support redirection and
> >(simulated) pipes, it would be nice if the proper file mode selection 
> worked
> >on these shells too.
> >
> 
> I believe that the redirection file modes are controlled by the shells 
> themselves.
> 
> -        \\||//
> ---o0O0--Earnie--0O0o----
> -earnie_boyd AT hotmail DOT com-
> ------ooo0O--O0ooo-------
> 

Well, that's not true, at least for the "standard" MS-DOS based shells.
The following are happening on a drive mounted -b (so that e.g., od reports
all bytes in files). The shell in use is 4DOS.COM (same results occur
with COMMAND.COM), on a Win95 machine.

c:\tmp\gcc-trials> cat chkdos.c
#include <stdio.h>
#include <string.h>
#include <fcntl.h>

int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
	char *test_str = "A test line\nAnother line\n";

	if (argc > 1 && strcmp(argv[1], "-b") == 0)
		_setmode(1, O_BINARY);
	printf("%s", test_str);
	exit(0);
}

c:\tmp\gcc-trials> gcc chkdos.c -o chkdos

c:\tmp\gcc-trials> chkdos 
A test line
Another line

c:\tmp\gcc-trials> chkdos -b
A test line
           Another line

c:\tmp\gcc-trials> chkdos > a

c:\tmp\gcc-trials> od -c a
0000000   A       t   e   s   t       l   i   n   e  \r  \n   A   n   o
0000020   t   h   e   r       l   i   n   e  \r  \n
0000033

c:\tmp\gcc-trials> chkdos -b > a

c:\tmp\gcc-trials> od -c a
0000000   A       t   e   s   t       l   i   n   e  \n   A   n   o   t
0000020   h   e   r       l   i   n   e  \n
0000031

The above show that 4DOS and COMMAND do not alter the file mode when
redirecting. In contrast, as you remarked, bash does change things, so as
to assure the right mode.

c:\tmp\gcc-trials> bash -c "chkdos"
A test line
Another line

c:\tmp\gcc-trials> bash -c "chkdos -b"
A test line
           Another line

c:\tmp\gcc-trials> bash -c "chkdos > a; od -c a"
0000000   A       t   e   s   t       l   i   n   e  \n   A   n   o   t
0000020   h   e   r       l   i   n   e  \n
0000031

c:\tmp\gcc-trials> bash -c "chkdos -b > a; od -c a"
0000000   A       t   e   s   t       l   i   n   e  \n   A   n   o   t
0000020   h   e   r       l   i   n   e  \n
0000031

It appeards, that the DOS-based shells take an approach similar to globbing:
"let the program do it itself". Ugly and silly, I know, but a fact of life.
That's why I proposed the startup code hack, in an attempt to try to remedy the
problem in the same way it is done with globbing.

Best regards,

Kimon Kontovasilis,
NCSR "Demokritos"
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