From: jqb AT netcom DOT com (Jim Balter) Subject: Re: Starting all over from 16.1 ? 18 Feb 1997 22:14:25 -0800 Approved: cygnus DOT gnu-win32 AT cygnus DOT com Distribution: cygnus Message-ID: <3309CA14.679C.cygnus.gnu-win32@netcom.com> References: <199702181421 DOT GAA03695 AT andare DOT fugue DOT com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) Original-To: gnu-win32 AT cygnus DOT com Original-Sender: owner-gnu-win32 AT cygnus DOT com Ted Lemon wrote: > > Jim, your ability to flame is truly magnificent. If you want to think > of it as critical analysis and pretend that what you're doing is > polite and constructive, I guess I can't stop you. From my > perspective, critical analysis is only distinct from flaming to the > extent that it used to further constructive discourse. A key > requirement of constructive discourse is that it show some signs of > convergence. The discussion about Cygnus' recent press release shows > no signs of convergence. I would call it a flame war. I definitely > would not characterize it as useful discourse. Whether or not you are > ``right'', continuing to espouse your many opinions on this topic has > no purpose other than to ensure that every second message on the > gnu-win32 mailing list comes from Jim Q. Balter. As usual you are off-topic with your metaflames. Take it elsewhere. > My knowledge of the FSF history comes not from reading emacs news > files, but from participating in said history, talking to the > principals and reading relevant on-line source material. I may have > the cutoff version number wrong, but the conflict that I describe over > Gosmacs did happen. If you want to correct my knowledge of FSF > history, that's fine - I don't claim to be perfectly informed. But at > least get your own facts straight first. I documented my claim. There was a conflict, but it was not of the nature you have described. Your memory is faulty. GNU emacs has always used elisp and it never was based upon Gosling emacs. -- - For help on using this list, send a message to "gnu-win32-request AT cygnus DOT com" with one line of text: "help".