Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin@cygwin.com To: cygwin@cygwin.com X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Path: not-for-mail From: Joe Buehler Newsgroups: gmane.os.cygwin Subject: Re: The Korn Shell [was: Re: What's Up With That (KSH)?] Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 14:20:42 -0400 Lines: 26 Message-ID: <3D08E27A.30807@hekimian.com> References: <20020612112823.5383.qmail@web21009.mail.yahoo.com> <20020613105023.GA24785@butch.jgcomp.com> <20020613172044.A1352@mail.gmd.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: hekimian.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1023992446 32361 206.205.138.10 (13 Jun 2002 18:20:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 18:20:46 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Thomas Baker wrote: > It is great news that this is in the pipeline. Not sure if > it is off-topic, but can someone explain in 25 words or less > how "AST", "INIT", and "UWIN" relate to the Cygwin effort? > My vague impression is that "UWIN" is a parallel universe to > Cygwin -- a freely available WIN32 Unix-lookalike based on > AT&T work, and that AST and INIT are something like the RPM > formats of the UWIN world. Is that at all close? AST is a toolkit that provides a portability layer on top of UNIX. It allows you to code to a single API and run on various flavors of UNIX. U/WIN (proper spelling) is the same idea as Cygwin. David Korn at AT&T research is the architect/chief developer. It's not free for commercial purposes, though there are downloadable versions on the web. What he has done in U/WIN is write a UNIX layer on top of Windows, then use AST for much of the libraries and utilities. The INIT stuff is packaging software, as far as I can tell. AT&T research (Bell labs) has a boatload of good software tools that don't really make it outside of AT&T, unfortunately. Joe Buehler -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/