From: dbe@wgn.net ($Bill Luebkert) Subject: Re: Fseek Help? 26 Jun 1998 22:23:22 -0700 Message-ID: <35938F17.CEE80DE4.cygnus.gnu-win32@wgn.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Edward Avis Cc: "'gnu-win32@cygnus.com'" Edward Avis wrote: > > [about the end-of-line CRLF vs LF problem] > > >Using CR-LF for end-of-line pre-dates both DOS and UNIX. > > It doesn't predate C, though. > > Or were there other systems that used \n as end-of-line and needed > conversion to \r\n? CR-LF comes from way back in the teletype days prior to any major operating systems. The carriage-return returned the carriage to the beginning of the line and the linefeed moved the paper up a line. Most of us old-timers that used/maintained teletype equipment used 2 Cr's and 1 LF at the end of a line to ensure the carriage was returned properly otherwise you got a big black letter at the end of a line when the CR failed. Double spacing (2 LFs) also helped reduce line overwrite problems. The only use I can see for a CR these days is to do line overwrite to a display screen. And even that can be done other ways. If M$ had any sense, they would drop the CR and save a few terabytes of space in the world for other things. :) -- ,-/- __ _ _ $Bill Luebkert ICQ=14439852 (_/ / ) // // DBE Collectibles / ) /--< o // // http://www.wgn.net/~dbe/ -/-' /___/_<_