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From:	Gian-Carlo Pascutto <GianCarlo DOT Pascutto AT advalvas DOT be>
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At 23:14 20/04/99 +0200, J. Teveßen wrote:

>Quoting Gian-Carlo Pascutto (GianCarlo DOT Pascutto AT advalvas DOT be):
>
>> "Post here read here" is said on Usenet. It should apply to 
>> mailingslists too.
>
>Isn't this mailing list's address mentioned as the address
>to send bug reports to? 

Yes.

>The usual things you do if you think
>you detected a bug in any non-snapshot software is reading
>the KNOWN-BUGS, then look at the homepage for "new" known
>bugs, and then mail your bug report to the given contact
>address.
>

3 points:

1) I mentioned (from memory): "if you are using free software
and want support for it the least you can do is subscribe to
the mailinglist" 

A lot of times when I used a piece of free software
and something didn't work (be it a bug or not), the bug was
just something that was acidentally introduced in a new version
(as was the case here) or a well known misfeature.

Your steps-to-follow are good, but if you add "listen if others
have to same problem too", you will find that many solve 
themselves.

Quote from original message/flame (not by me):
>>>> Wenn Du was zu sagen hast oder Hilfe brauchst dann subskribiere diese
>>>> Mailing List. Ansonsten shut up! 

Translated:
If you've got something to say or need help then subscribe to the mailinglist.
Otherwise shut up!

He may have put it a bit too blunt, but he WAS right.


2) "The Post here read here" referred specifically to the idea of 
CC answers. (see the note about that in my previous post)

Something I didn't bring up in the previous message 'cos it had 
nothing to do with pgcc or the mailinglist itself:

People who post on Usenet and say "please CC your reply as I don't
read this newsgroup" will NEVER get a reply from me. Not because
I think they are impolite (I do think that but that wouldn't stop
me from answering them), but simply because I CAN'T. So please
people, DON'T do it.


3) (Not sure about this one)
Wasn't it mentioned on the homepage that the patch was severly broken?


Greetings,
Gian-Carlo

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