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Subject:	Re: [geda-user] Problem changing hole size.
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Hi Girvin-

Usually "Mode1" is like, the windows key, or the command key on a mac, I
believe.

There should be newer versions of the pcb manual available, if you're using
a more recent version of pcb, you should probably reference the associated
manual.

You have a couple of different ways you can deal with this:

1. Select the via, then under the Select menu, there is an option to
"change drilling hole of selected objects", and select vias +10 mils. This
will work for holes too (they're really still vias under the hood).

2. Modify a route style to create a via with a hole the size you want,
place it, and then set the hole flag.

3. According to Info > Key Bindings, you should be able to hit <Alt-S> to
increase the drill hole size by 5 mils, however, when I try this, the Alt
gets captured and interpreted as a request to open a menu by GTK.
<Shift-Alt-S> still works to make it smaller by 5 mils. This is something
we need to fix.

4. Create a "footprint"/element with the hole you want, and load it. There
may already be some standard sized mounting hole footprints in the library
(if there aren't, there should be).

Thanks,
--Chad

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 4:18 PM Girvin Herr (gherrl AT fastmail DOT com) [via
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I am trying to create a mounting hole in my PCB design using PCB 4.1.3.
> I first created a via, then used Ctrl-h to change it to a hole. That
> seems to have worked. Now I am trying to enlarge the hole for a mounting
> screw. The manual I have (Pcb-20110918 by Harry Eaton), page 21, Para.
> 3.5.6 Vias, states to use "Mode1<key>v" to enlarge the hole. However, I
> do not see where "Mode1" is defined and permutations of Alt-v, Esc-v,
> Ctrl-v, etc do not create the correct results (enlarging the hole size
> on-screen). Can someone tell me what "Mode1" is or describe how I can
> change the hole size of an existing via?
>
> Thanks.
> Girvin Herr
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Girvin-</div><div><br></div><div>Usually &quot;Mod=
e1&quot; is like, the windows key, or the command key on a mac, I believe.<=
/div><div><br></div><div>There should be newer versions of the pcb manual a=
vailable, if you&#39;re using a more recent version of pcb, you should prob=
ably reference the associated manual.<br></div><div><br></div><div>You have=
 a couple of different ways you can deal with this:</div><div><br></div><di=
v>1. Select the via, then under the Select menu, there is an option to &quo=
t;change drilling hole of selected objects&quot;, and select vias +10 mils.=
 This will work for holes too (they&#39;re really still vias under the hood=
).</div><div><br></div><div>2. Modify a route style to create a via with a =
hole the size you want, place it, and then set the hole flag.</div><div><br=
></div><div>3. According to Info &gt; Key Bindings, you should be able to h=
it &lt;Alt-S&gt; to increase the drill hole size by 5 mils, however, when I=
 try this, the Alt gets captured and interpreted as a request to open a men=
u by GTK. &lt;Shift-Alt-S&gt; still works to make it smaller by 5 mils. Thi=
s is something we need to fix.</div><div><br></div><div>4. Create a &quot;f=
ootprint&quot;/element with the hole you want, and load it. There may alrea=
dy be some standard sized mounting hole footprints in the library (if there=
 aren&#39;t, there should be).<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><d=
iv>--Chad<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 4:18 PM Girvin Herr (<a href=3D"m=
ailto:gherrl AT fastmail DOT com">gherrl AT fastmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:=
geda-user AT delorie DOT com">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>] &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ged=
a-user AT delorie DOT com">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px =
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Greetings,<br>
<br>
I am trying to create a mounting hole in my PCB design using PCB 4.1.3. <br=
>
I first created a via, then used Ctrl-h to change it to a hole. That <br>
seems to have worked. Now I am trying to enlarge the hole for a mounting <b=
r>
screw. The manual I have (Pcb-20110918 by Harry Eaton), page 21, Para. <br>
3.5.6 Vias, states to use &quot;Mode1&lt;key&gt;v&quot; to enlarge the hole=
. However, I <br>
do not see where &quot;Mode1&quot; is defined and permutations of Alt-v, Es=
c-v, <br>
Ctrl-v, etc do not create the correct results (enlarging the hole size <br>
on-screen). Can someone tell me what &quot;Mode1&quot; is or describe how I=
 can <br>
change the hole size of an existing via?<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
Girvin Herr<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>

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