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On Fri, 8 Jan 2016, Nicklas Karlsson (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:

>>>>>>  I can't use the
>>>>>> recommended direct PCB gschem-schematic-import method due to some special
>>>>>> schematic post-processing (mostly eliminating off-board parts/wiring, which I
>>>>>> want to have on the schematic),
>>>>>
>>>>> I attach graphical=1 to those to tell gnetlist that they don?t go into the netlist.
>>>>
>>>> That may work for whole parts, but doesn't work when particular pins/nodes need
>>>> to be separated from the board (thus the "/wiring").
>>>>
>>>>  	-F
>>>
>>> If you make one schematic for each circuit board it will work.
>>>
>>> It is possible to make a symbol matching connector output and put it higher than the circuit board(s) in the hierarchy. If you add a "source=board.sch" attribute you could get down into the hierarchy but symbol is not electrically connected to connector so for example DRC will not work for the whole circuit.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> I have to wonder - what's so hard about getting pcb to understand
>> a circuit from a netlist?
>
> Well you said if you make one schematic for each circuit board which suggest you try to make several circuit board from one schematic. Symbols without a footprint do not show up on the circuit board.

Sorry, but that's not quite what I said.  Most commonly my
need is for a single circuit board.  And as I said, I want
these few connections to be on the same sheet as it is more
readily comprehended by others.

> Sometimes it is useful to draw a schematic connecting several circuit boards and if you add a source attribute with the filename of the schematic to the symbol you get hieratchical design.

Thanks.  I am quite familiar with hierarchical design in gschem,
having used it on a variety of projects.  Its current implementation
is kinda unwieldly but (other than the problem with buses) useful.

To repeat my previous question:  what's so hard about getting pcb to
understand a circuit from a netlist?  This would allow a variety of
custom "schematic alterations" that cannot happen if gPCB reads the
schematic directly.

Maybe there's an alternative - if a duplicate schematic can be made,
and the duplicate schematic altered appropriately.  This seems much
more complicated than editing a netlist without some non-graphical
tool for editing the schematic, so I'm not recommending this approach.

 	-F

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