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Date:	Sun, 23 Aug 2015 16:29:22 +0200
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Am 23.08.2015 um 15:46 schrieb Peter Stuge (peter AT stuge DOT se) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]:
> The motivation
> is to gather efforts.

Excellent!


> If someone has created an experimental development and left it at
> that, and *someone else* is interested in [...]

... then this somebody else likely doesn't even recognize this experimental development. How would he? Forks are hidden and that's their biggest problem.

When doing this script I googled for such forks and found three. This morning Bert added another 17(!) of them. Probably he collected them over the years from the mailing list and by IRC. Google and me missed all these 17 forks and any other interested developer likely wouldn't see them either.


>> they consider gEDA to be mostly dead, because there's no visible
>> development and newer developments also don't get into Linux
>> distributions.
> 
> Yes, I know this phenomenon well. Maintaining a widespread open
> source project taught me quite a bit about the pure consumer
> attitude of open source users and distribution package maintainers.

While this widespread consumer attitude certainly exists[1], I consider this phenomena mostly to be a result of most everything noteworthy being hidden. There's just as much gEDA development as is KiCAD development, it's just not visible. The simple rule of the internet is: "what's not visible doesn't exist".


Now, if you think there are goals neccessary for collaboration, why not formulate them? My own goals are currently:

- Collect (or mark as unsuitable) all the bug fixes in all the forks.

- Gain visible activity by doing the above.

- Work on an 3D exporter which allows me to take pictures suitable for dummy-proof build instructions like these:

http://reprap.org/wiki/Gen7_Board_1.4.1#Assembly_in_Pictures



Markus


[1] A probably 16 year old pupil recently: "Why do you expect feedback? This is Open Source, so contributing to it is pointless!" *ouch*

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