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From: Kai-Martin Knaak <knaak AT iqo DOT uni-hannover DOT de>
Subject: Re: [geda-user] work on gEDA
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 12:29:55 +0100
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Vladimir Zhbanov wrote:

> Try this:
> 
> (use-modules (geda page))
> (use-modules (geda object))
> (define R
>   (make-component/library "resistor-2.sym" '(40000 . 40000) 0 #t #f))
> (page-append!  (active-page) R)
> (promote-attribs! R)

This works! :-)

>>  
>> > Please look at 'info geda-scheme' for more info on this.
>> 
>> Err, well ... this is well hidden.
>> How should I know that "geda-scheme" is the term to look for in info?
> You already know the answer, right? ;)

Actually no. I knew that info existed. But the few times I looked at an 
info page it got me less information than the corresponding man page. So 
info never registered in my internal list of information sources. 

Since about the turn of the century www+google have firmly established 
themselves as the one stop to retrieve howto information. So the most 
efficient way to get info pages to the reader might be a mirror on a web 
page which is indexed by the crawlers of google and company.


> On my system I do:
>   info
> Search for 'geda'
>   /geda

works on my system too. But since I never got the hang of info in the 
first place, I never got that far. BTW, on my system "info gschem" returns 
the man page of gschem. This reinforces the impression that info does not 
do much beyond man.


>> Somebody with write access to the wiki might remove the attribute "on-
>> line" to make the heading compatible for offline use, too)
> I believed you do have write access, do you?

Not anymore.
My login got removed three times for no reason -- just like everybody else 
on the wiki. No details were given, no warning in advance. It just 
happened. Apparently, this was the wiki operators idea of how to handle a 
migration to a different server. I reapplied and got access again. During 
this time geda devs indicated on this list, they did not appreciate the 
work done in the wiki. In my case, this was mainly 
	http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:faq-gschem
and 
	http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:pcb_tips
After my wiki account was gone for the third time I decided to engage 
elsewhere. The necessity to submit to a "code of conduct" did not help, 
either.


>> (BTW, wouldn't it be nice to refer
>> the user directly to the manual in the first place?) The very last
> My gschem has 'Gschem User Guide' as the first entry in the 'Help' menu

Fair enough. 
There is also a link to a local copy of faq-gschem.html, to a local copy 
of the geda wiki and to the internet version of the wiki. All of them have 
a dedicated accel key combo. Unfortunately, the local copies come with no 
navigation at all. No index, no site map, no context. As a seasoned user I 
sort of know how these pages relate and what to expect. But how does this 
catalog work for a newbie? 
Maybe less would be more: Provide just one entry for documentation and 
redirect users from there. 


> (<H><G>). Does yours has one? (However, all the 'Help' menu entries
> don't work for me for some reason :) Wine seems to have broke them,

This is probably a MIME issue. The mime type of the documentation files is 
"text/html". To show the applications your desktop uses to open them do: 
	gvfs-mime --query text/html
Most likely, it says the default application is wine. It also presents a 
list of desktop files registered for file with the mime type text/html. A 
sub set of these desktop files is presented as "recommended applications".
 
To change the default to the www browser iceweasel you could do:
	gvfs-mime --set text/html iceweasel.desktop

An alternative would be 
	mimeopen -d LOCAL/PATH/TO/doc/geda-gaf/wiki/index.html
This presents a list of applications. Actually, this list is compiled from 
the list of desktop files returned by gvfs-open. Choose one and it will be 
the default for the current user from now on. The place, where this 
information is stored is: $HOME/.local/share/applications/defaults.list 

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