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Subject: Re: [geda-user] Heavy Symbols
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got it ~ creating a gschemrc in my home is perfect

Thanks


On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Stephen R. Besch <sbesch AT buffalo DOT edu>wrote:

> Rob,
>
> You can indeed put a gschemrc into each project to handle stuff that is
> project specific. However, you can also have a per-user gschemrc in you're
> home directory. If you put the file there, it will work for all projects
> that you create and anything in the project's gschemrc will take precedence
> if there is a conflict. If anyone else uses the system, they have their own
> gschemrc to customize as they please.  I haven't done much with
> system-gschemrc, other than to customize it by adding/subtracting comments.
> If you really need to change it, you'll have to change the access
> privileges with sudo chmod to be world writeable. Just remember to change
> them back when finished and to save a copy of the original file. You may
> just break gschem by changing something in this file and then not remember
> exactly what it was changed from. I would really recommend using
> /home/yourUserName/.gEDA/**gschemrc. The only time I would use
> system-gschemrc is in the case where there are multiple users that all need
> to be constrained to use the same settings for consistency across the group.
>
>
> On 09/18/2013 03:04 PM, Rob Butts wrote:
>
>> I'd like to change the system-gschemrc file if I can ~ this way I don't
>> have to make up new gschemrc files for each project.  It is read only.
>>  Can
>> I place a gshcemrc file in the gaf folder and have it for all subfolders?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Rob Butts <r DOT butts2 AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
>>
>>  Great!
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Stephen R. Besch <sbesch AT buffalo DOT edu
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>>  Rob,
>>>>
>>>> I should also mention that I find the easiest way to generate a new
>>>> symbol from an old one is to insert the old one onto a schematic,
>>>> select it
>>>> and click on the Hierarchy...Down Symbol command from the top menu bar.
>>>> Then use the File menu to save the symbol in your local library,
>>>> probably
>>>> with a new name. Type "en" followed by "et" (and accept the Translation
>>>> entry box that results from the "et" command.
>>>>
>>>> Now you can edit the symbol to you're hearts content. When done, hit
>>>> "en"
>>>> followed by "et" to re-hide hidden attributes and translate the symbol
>>>> back
>>>> to 0,  save a final time and you're almost done.
>>>> Before you lose track of it, use the hierarchy UP command to return to
>>>> the main schematic and delete the now unneeded "old" symbol.
>>>>
>>>> Note that gschem won't see the new symbol until after the next restart.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 09/18/2013 02:01 PM, Rob Butts wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> I know where the resistor symbols are in gschem.  Now I now where the
>>>>> symbol file is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for showing me how to add the attributes!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Stephen R. Besch <sbesch AT buffalo DOT edu
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>   On 09/18/2013 01:16 PM, Rob Butts wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>   I know this is a much discussed subject but I haven't followed it
>>>>>> much
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> reading the results of a search is confusing this non-guru-linux
>>>>>>> user.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was just about to locate the resistor symbol to make my own version
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> attributes of footprint, part number, digikey part number...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does this exist?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    There are 2 questions posed here. First, is there a symbol for a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  resistor in the standard library? Yes there is. Look in the MISC
>>>>>> category
>>>>>> and pick one of those as a staring point. The other question is: Does
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> one already have such a customized resistor symbol? The answer to this
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> also yes. However, since attribute preferences and component style
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> differ, you're probably better off rolling your own. I would also
>>>>>> suggest
>>>>>> that you add your custom attributes to the gschemrc file located the
>>>>>> .gEDA
>>>>>> folder found in your home directory.  Then when you click on the
>>>>>> attribute
>>>>>> Drop down when adding an attribute, your custom choices will be there.
>>>>>>    This has 2 advantages: 1) You don't have to type them every time,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> 2)
>>>>>> it avoids having slight differences in the spelling of the attributes
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> constructing parts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> gschemrc is also where you define the location of your custom
>>>>>> component
>>>>>> library(s). So, you would add something like this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (component-library "${HOME}/gaf/your_local-sym_******directory")
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (attribute-name "Vendor")
>>>>>> (attribute-name "VendorPN")
>>>>>> (attribute-name "Manufacturer")
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> fictio cedit veritati
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  --
>>>> fictio cedit veritati
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
> --
> fictio cedit veritati
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>got it ~ creating a gschemrc in my home is perfect<br=
><br></div>Thanks<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Stephen R. Besch <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sbesch AT buffalo DOT edu" target=3D"_blank">sbesch=
@buffalo.edu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Rob,<br>
<br>
You can indeed put a gschemrc into each project to handle stuff that is pro=
ject specific. However, you can also have a per-user gschemrc in you&#39;re=
 home directory. If you put the file there, it will work for all projects t=
hat you create and anything in the project&#39;s gschemrc will take precede=
nce if there is a conflict. If anyone else uses the system, they have their=
 own gschemrc to customize as they please. =A0I haven&#39;t done much with =
system-gschemrc, other than to customize it by adding/subtracting comments.=
 If you really need to change it, you&#39;ll have to change the access priv=
ileges with sudo chmod to be world writeable. Just remember to change them =
back when finished and to save a copy of the original file. You may just br=
eak gschem by changing something in this file and then not remember exactly=
 what it was changed from. I would really recommend using /home/yourUserNam=
e/.gEDA/<u></u>gschemrc. The only time I would use system-gschemrc is in th=
e case where there are multiple users that all need to be constrained to us=
e the same settings for consistency across the group.<div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
On 09/18/2013 03:04 PM, Rob Butts wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div cla=
ss=3D"h5">
I&#39;d like to change the system-gschemrc file if I can ~ this way I don&#=
39;t<br>
have to make up new gschemrc files for each project. =A0It is read only. =
=A0Can<br>
I place a gshcemrc file in the gaf folder and have it for all subfolders?<b=
r>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Rob Butts &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:r DOT butts2 AT g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">r DOT butts2 AT gmail DOT com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div cla=
ss=3D"h5">
Great!<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Stephen R. Besch &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sbe=
sch AT buffalo DOT edu" target=3D"_blank">sbesch AT buffalo DOT edu</a>&gt;wrote:<br>
<br>
</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div cla=
ss=3D"h5">
Rob,<br>
<br>
I should also mention that I find the easiest way to generate a new<br>
symbol from an old one is to insert the old one onto a schematic, select it=
<br>
and click on the Hierarchy...Down Symbol command from the top menu bar.<br>
Then use the File menu to save the symbol in your local library, probably<b=
r>
with a new name. Type &quot;en&quot; followed by &quot;et&quot; (and accept=
 the Translation<br>
entry box that results from the &quot;et&quot; command.<br>
<br>
Now you can edit the symbol to you&#39;re hearts content. When done, hit &q=
uot;en&quot;<br>
followed by &quot;et&quot; to re-hide hidden attributes and translate the s=
ymbol back<br>
to 0, =A0save a final time and you&#39;re almost done.<br>
Before you lose track of it, use the hierarchy UP command to return to<br>
the main schematic and delete the now unneeded &quot;old&quot; symbol.<br>
<br>
Note that gschem won&#39;t see the new symbol until after the next restart.=
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 09/18/2013 02:01 PM, Rob Butts wrote:<br>
<br>
</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div cla=
ss=3D"h5">
Thanks!<br>
<br>
I know where the resistor symbols are in gschem. =A0Now I now where the<br>
symbol file is.<br>
<br>
Thanks for showing me how to add the attributes!<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Stephen R. Besch &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sbe=
sch AT buffalo DOT edu" target=3D"_blank">sbesch AT buffalo DOT edu</a><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
wrote:<br>
</blockquote>
=A0 On 09/18/2013 01:16 PM, Rob Butts wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div cla=
ss=3D"h5">
=A0 I know this is a much discussed subject but I haven&#39;t followed it m=
uch<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
and<br>
reading the results of a search is confusing this non-guru-linux user.<br>
<br>
I was just about to locate the resistor symbol to make my own version<br>
with<br>
attributes of footprint, part number, digikey part number...<br>
<br>
Does this exist?<br>
<br>
=A0 =A0There are 2 questions posed here. First, is there a symbol for a<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
resistor in the standard library? Yes there is. Look in the MISC<br>
category<br>
and pick one of those as a staring point. The other question is: Does<br>
any<br>
one already have such a customized resistor symbol? The answer to this<br>
is<br>
also yes. However, since attribute preferences and component style will<br>
differ, you&#39;re probably better off rolling your own. I would also<br>
suggest<br>
that you add your custom attributes to the gschemrc file located the<br>
.gEDA<br>
folder found in your home directory. =A0Then when you click on the<br>
attribute<br>
Drop down when adding an attribute, your custom choices will be there.<br>
=A0 =A0This has 2 advantages: 1) You don&#39;t have to type them every time=
, and<br>
2)<br>
it avoids having slight differences in the spelling of the attributes<br>
when<br>
constructing parts.<br>
<br>
gschemrc is also where you define the location of your custom component<br>
library(s). So, you would add something like this:<br>
<br></div></div>
(component-library &quot;${HOME}/gaf/your_local-sym_**<u></u>**directory&qu=
ot;)<div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
<br>
(attribute-name &quot;Vendor&quot;)<br>
(attribute-name &quot;VendorPN&quot;)<br>
(attribute-name &quot;Manufacturer&quot;)<br>
<br>
<br>
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fictio cedit veritati<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></blockquote></blockquote><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#8888=
88">
--<br>
fictio cedit veritati<br>
<br>
<br>
</font></span></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><span class=3D"HOEnZb"=
><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
fictio cedit veritati<br>
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