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Subject: Re: [geda-user] Heavy Symbols
From: Rob Butts <r DOT butts2 AT gmail DOT com>
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I found the directory.


On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Rob Butts <r DOT butts2 AT gmail DOT com> wrote:

> I'd like to change the system-gschemrc file if I can ~ this way I don't
> have to make up new gschemrc files for each project.  It is read only.  Can
> I place a gshcemrc file in the gaf folder and have it for all subfolders?
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Rob Butts <r DOT butts2 AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
>
>> Great!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Stephen R. Besch <sbesch AT buffalo DOT edu>wrote:
>>
>>> Rob,
>>>
>>> I should also mention that I find the easiest way to generate a new
>>> symbol from an old one is to insert the old one onto a schematic, select it
>>> and click on the Hierarchy...Down Symbol command from the top menu bar.
>>> Then use the File menu to save the symbol in your local library, probably
>>> with a new name. Type "en" followed by "et" (and accept the Translation
>>> entry box that results from the "et" command.
>>>
>>> Now you can edit the symbol to you're hearts content. When done, hit
>>> "en" followed by "et" to re-hide hidden attributes and translate the symbol
>>> back to 0,  save a final time and you're almost done.
>>> Before you lose track of it, use the hierarchy UP command to return to
>>> the main schematic and delete the now unneeded "old" symbol.
>>>
>>> Note that gschem won't see the new symbol until after the next restart.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/18/2013 02:01 PM, Rob Butts wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> I know where the resistor symbols are in gschem.  Now I now where the
>>>> symbol file is.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for showing me how to add the attributes!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Stephen R. Besch <sbesch AT buffalo DOT edu
>>>> >wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  On 09/18/2013 01:16 PM, Rob Butts wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  I know this is a much discussed subject but I haven't followed it
>>>>>> much and
>>>>>> reading the results of a search is confusing this non-guru-linux user.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was just about to locate the resistor symbol to make my own version
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> attributes of footprint, part number, digikey part number...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does this exist?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   There are 2 questions posed here. First, is there a symbol for a
>>>>>>
>>>>> resistor in the standard library? Yes there is. Look in the MISC
>>>>> category
>>>>> and pick one of those as a staring point. The other question is: Does
>>>>> any
>>>>> one already have such a customized resistor symbol? The answer to this
>>>>> is
>>>>> also yes. However, since attribute preferences and component style will
>>>>> differ, you're probably better off rolling your own. I would also
>>>>> suggest
>>>>> that you add your custom attributes to the gschemrc file located the
>>>>> .gEDA
>>>>> folder found in your home directory.  Then when you click on the
>>>>> attribute
>>>>> Drop down when adding an attribute, your custom choices will be there.
>>>>>   This has 2 advantages: 1) You don't have to type them every time,
>>>>> and 2)
>>>>> it avoids having slight differences in the spelling of the attributes
>>>>> when
>>>>> constructing parts.
>>>>>
>>>>> gschemrc is also where you define the location of your custom component
>>>>> library(s). So, you would add something like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> (component-library "${HOME}/gaf/your_local-sym_****directory")
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (attribute-name "Vendor")
>>>>> (attribute-name "VendorPN")
>>>>> (attribute-name "Manufacturer")
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> fictio cedit veritati
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> fictio cedit veritati
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I found the directory.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Rob Bu=
tts <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:r DOT butts2 AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_=
blank">r DOT butts2 AT gmail DOT com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;d like to change the =
system-gschemrc file if I can ~ this way I don&#39;t have to make up new gs=
chemrc files for each project.=A0 It is read only.=A0 Can I place a gshcemr=
c file in the gaf folder and have it for all subfolders?<br>

</div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><b=
r><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Rob Butts=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:r DOT butts2 AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">r DOT butts2 AT gmail DOT com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Gre=
at!<br><br></div>Thanks!<br></div><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Stephen R. =
Besch <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sbesch AT buffalo DOT edu" target=3D=
"_blank">sbesch AT buffalo DOT edu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Rob,<br>
<br>
I should also mention that I find the easiest way to generate a new symbol =
from an old one is to insert the old one onto a schematic, select it and cl=
ick on the Hierarchy...Down Symbol command from the top menu bar. Then use =
the File menu to save the symbol in your local library, probably with a new=
 name. Type &quot;en&quot; followed by &quot;et&quot; (and accept the Trans=
lation entry box that results from the &quot;et&quot; command.<br>



<br>
Now you can edit the symbol to you&#39;re hearts content. When done, hit &q=
uot;en&quot; followed by &quot;et&quot; to re-hide hidden attributes and tr=
anslate the symbol back to 0, =A0save a final time and you&#39;re almost do=
ne.<br>



Before you lose track of it, use the hierarchy UP command to return to the =
main schematic and delete the now unneeded &quot;old&quot; symbol.<br>
<br>
Note that gschem won&#39;t see the new symbol until after the next restart.=
<div><div><br>
<br>
On 09/18/2013 02:01 PM, Rob Butts wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
I know where the resistor symbols are in gschem. =A0Now I now where the<br>
symbol file is.<br>
<br>
Thanks for showing me how to add the attributes!<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Stephen R. Besch &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sbe=
sch AT buffalo DOT edu" target=3D"_blank">sbesch AT buffalo DOT edu</a>&gt;wrote:<br>
<br>
</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>
On 09/18/2013 01:16 PM, Rob Butts wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
I know this is a much discussed subject but I haven&#39;t followed it much =
and<br>
reading the results of a search is confusing this non-guru-linux user.<br>
<br>
I was just about to locate the resistor symbol to make my own version with<=
br>
attributes of footprint, part number, digikey part number...<br>
<br>
Does this exist?<br>
<br>
=A0 There are 2 questions posed here. First, is there a symbol for a<br>
</blockquote>
resistor in the standard library? Yes there is. Look in the MISC category<b=
r>
and pick one of those as a staring point. The other question is: Does any<b=
r>
one already have such a customized resistor symbol? The answer to this is<b=
r>
also yes. However, since attribute preferences and component style will<br>
differ, you&#39;re probably better off rolling your own. I would also sugge=
st<br>
that you add your custom attributes to the gschemrc file located the .gEDA<=
br>
folder found in your home directory. =A0Then when you click on the attribut=
e<br>
Drop down when adding an attribute, your custom choices will be there.<br>
=A0 This has 2 advantages: 1) You don&#39;t have to type them every time, a=
nd 2)<br>
it avoids having slight differences in the spelling of the attributes when<=
br>
constructing parts.<br>
<br>
gschemrc is also where you define the location of your custom component<br>
library(s). So, you would add something like this:<br>
<br></div></div>
(component-library &quot;${HOME}/gaf/your_local-sym_**<u></u>directory&quot=
;)<div><br>
<br>
(attribute-name &quot;Vendor&quot;)<br>
(attribute-name &quot;VendorPN&quot;)<br>
(attribute-name &quot;Manufacturer&quot;)<br>
<br>
<br>
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fictio cedit veritati<br>
<br>
<br>
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