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From:	"Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
Date:	Tue, 10 Jun 2025 14:34:13 -0800
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Subject:	Re: [geda-user] pcb git down, new git repo available
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On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 6:34 PM Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
> Multiple font support, multiple file/footprint format support for import and export, slot in pad support, slot layers (plated and unplayed), extensible layer stack up support, script defined CAM file exporting, pad stacks, polygons in footprints, text in footprints, project files, back annotation, openscad export support (subject to models), auto routing plugins, bitmap overlays as well as working --bg-image support... are just some of the many solved problems in pcb-rnd along with gtk4 support (and a presence in current distributions along with the associated schematic editor sch-rnd and Gerber/CAM file viewer camv-rnd with slotted pad viewing support) all while maintaining support for gEDA PCB file formats and supporting multiple netlist import formats.
>
> It is worth trying pcb-rnd if you are used to using gEDA PCB and have existing designs. The only thing you'll find that feels different are the key bindings, as there are a lot more features to be mapped to the keyboard, but as a bonus, the bindings are consistent across sch-rnd, pcb-rnd and camv-rnd.

Since we're promoting pcb-rnd so heavily here I'd like to reiterate
what I prefer about old pcb:

1.  It doesn't introduce as many features with little testing, both
times I've tried pcb-rnd I hit things that aren't exactly bugs except
perhaps in the sense of not-well-described-error, but mislead user.
I've also seen similar problems discussed on the pcb-rnd mailing list
for other users and encountered dev resistance when similar
problems-in-the-making are brought up.

2.  It's more responsive, less lag when drawing.  pcb-rnd is not
nearly as bad as e.g. solidworks but just a bit more like other big
CAD where everything is sluggish.

Maybe these are fixed now but it was enough on my last try that I
stayed with pcb.

However I noticed that the latest pcb-rnd has rubber-band routing and
if that's really working I'd try it again for an entirely new design.

Britton

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