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From: "karl AT aspodata DOT se [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
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Subject: Re: [geda-user] new schematics editor: sch-rnd
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Igor2:
> On Wed, 10 May 2023, karl AT aspodata DOT se [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
...
> One way is how gschem and lepton (and tinycad and some others) do it: you 
> store the graphics and any time you want to make conclusions on the 
> meaning of the graphics, you have to go and figure which line touches 
> which other line, where they touch pins, etc.

Yes, bad choise.

> The other extreme is what sch-rnd does: we store the sheet in a grouped 
> fashion, so storing the logics. Instead of a heap of random wire lines, we 
> have a wire net group for all the lines (and junction graphics) that make 
> up a connected "net segment" (our terminology is wirenet for this). When 
> you draw in the GUI, it just updates the groups. Like if you connect two 
> wirenet groups with a wire on the GUI, the GUI needs to merge the two 
> wirenet groups. We also have explicit connection objects that connect 
> wirenets to terminals or terminals to terminals. So you don't need to 
> guess connections by coords either.

Much better.

...
> > If you look at 
> >   stm32f100lm.power.LQFP100.sym
> >   stm32f100lm.power.LQFP48.sym
> >   stm32f100lm.power.LQFP64.sym
> >   stm32f100lm.power.TFBGA64.sym
> > from above link, you'll see that the symbol box is the same size, and 
> > that e.g. VDD_1 for all of them are at the same position. That means
> > you can start with lqfp48 chip design, realize you need some more pins
> > and just swap out the symbols, the present caps will connect at the
> > right place and you can just add the "missing" caps.
...
> Or maybe just have a single VDD and a single VSS terminal on the symbol 
> and let devmap bind it to multiple physical package pins.

Good idea.

...
> What I meant by alternate pin functionality is more like this:

I look forward to see what you come up with.

Regards,
/Karl Hammar


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