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Subject:	Re: PLEASE STOP !!! - Re: [geda-user] Apollon
From:	"Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
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On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 12:10 AM, Evan Foss <evanfoss AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:36 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak
> <knaak AT iqo DOT uni-hannover DOT de> wrote:
>> Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via
>> geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>>
>>>> 2. Not everyone who should be is on the developers list is because
>>>> some folks wanted to play gate keeper. This killed off trolling and
>>> Please tell me privately whom you want to see on the developer list.
>>
>> Decision making in private, i.e with no communication to the general
>> public, was the way to run all things geda since at least 2009. It seems
>> plausible, that this contributed to drive the project into the sad state
>> which it currently is. Make people feel not involved and they tend to walk
>> away where they feel more welcome.
>> Note, I am not lobbying to hold general votes. The keyword above is
>> communication.
>
> Oh yea Igor2 and I both got ticked off back in the day about that
> lists formation. I joined and got some crass emails privately for
> daring to apply. He was just out right excluded possibly
> unintentionally. That was about when I gave up too.

To be fair to Vladimir, DJ, and Markus they have been trying to make
this place a more open environment.

Also I was not a very viable candidate back then, which only makes
Igor2 not being let in seem even more nutty.



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