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On Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 08:59:06PM +0200, Ivan Stankovic (pokemon AT fly DOT srk DOT fer DOT hr) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 02:36:08PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
> > 
> > > I'm also a professional developer and know many other professional
> > > developers.
> > 
> > I've at least heard of those languages, but I haven't learned any of
> > them.  So for me, anything other than C/C++/Perl wouldn't take "1/3
> > the time" ;-)
> 
> Well, the "1/3 the time" thing is valid only if you're familiar with both
> languages, otherwise the comparison does not make much sense.
> 
> Though, there were a few occasions where I witnessed people familiar
> with C, but completely new to Python, coding something simple and
> working in at most 1/2 the time it would take them to do the same in
> C.

Python is great for quick development. But experience here shows that it
is a disaster for code which needs long term maintenance. Removing
obsolete functionality is extremely hard, that's something for which
nothing beats compiled languages.

I once developed a moderately complex algorithm in Python, it was fairly
slow but I would not have written it that fast in C (I learned both Python 
and TkInter at the same time so there was a lot to learn). This took one
month, and then the translation of the code to C (without the GUI) took
me 2-3 hours. It would have taken me more time to write it only in C.

    Gabriel

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