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On 4/29/16, Eli Zaretskii (eliz AT gnu DOT org) [via djgpp AT delorie DOT com]
<djgpp AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 00:34:20 +0200
>> From: "Juan Manuel Guerrero (juan DOT guerrero AT gmx DOT de) [via
>> djgpp AT delorie DOT com]" <djgpp AT delorie DOT com>
>>
>> If gdb64 is not good enough to debug emacs issues, then we have reach the
>> end
>> of the road of the DJGPP port of emacs.  I have neither the skills nor the
>> time
>> to fix broken coff debug support neither in binutils nor in gdb.
>
> This raises an issue that is IMO important to discuss.  It is
> certainly important for me personally.  Here it is:
>
>   Do we still want/need to build latest Emacs versions with DJGPP?
>
> Maintaining DJGPP compatibility in Emacs sources is a non-trivial
> task.  That compatibility gets regularly broken, and the breakage is
> not apparent and doesn't get fixed until much later, because (AFAIK)
> no one tracks the development sources on a regular basis.
>
> I'm quite sure I'm the only one who builds the DJGPP Emacs and fixes
> any bugs I find for the past several years.  Doing that is a burden
> that slowly becomes heavier and heavier (and I'm not getting younger,
> either).  For example, I am currently trying to fix bugs in the DJGPP
> build of the latest pretest of Emacs 25.1, and I have already invested
> about 3 days of my free time into getting it to build.  I still have a
> significant bug to fix (invoking programs doesn't work), and a couple
> of minor ones.  The issues with being able to debug Emacs with GDB,
> discussed lately, only make the not-so-simple job even more so.
>
> So please tell me if these efforts are still needed.  Does anyone use
> a DJGPP Emacs for their routine work, on DJGPP or anything else?
> Because if no one needs this port, all my efforts to maintain it are
> just a huge waste of time.
>
> We are all volunteers here.  But if a volunteer's work is unused,
> he/she should invest their energy elsewhere.
>
> Please respond.  If no one responds to these questions, I will
> conclude that the DJGPP port of Emacs is not needed anymore, and will
> stop trying to keep it in working order.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

Speaking for myself, I never needed nor used djgpp port of emacs.

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