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Subject:	RE: ordinal linking for cygwin ld
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Date:	Sat, 27 Apr 2002 08:57:05 +1000
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From:	"Robert Collins" <robert DOT collins AT itdomain DOT com DOT au>
To:	"Charles Wilson" <cwilson AT ece DOT gatech DOT edu>,
	"Ralf Habacker" <Ralf DOT Habacker AT freenet DOT de>
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	"Binutils" <binutils AT sources DOT redhat DOT com>,
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Wilson [mailto:cwilson AT ece DOT gatech DOT edu] 
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 8:55 AM
> To: Ralf Habacker
> Cc: Kde-Cygwin; Binutils; Cygwin-Apps
> Subject: Re: ordinal linking for cygwin ld
> 
> 
> Ralf Habacker wrote:
> 
> >>
> >>Since your app linked by ordinal, it will break if you try 
> to run it 
> >>with the new DLL, without re-linking.
> >>
> > 
> > accepted
> > 
> > 
> >>So how does the vendor ensure that he doesn't unnecessarily break 
> >>backwards compatibility, and keep the ordinals the same?  
> By using a 
> >>def file.
> >>
> > 
> > Or be relinking all the libs.
> 
> 
> If *you* release new "compatible" libs with the ordinals 
> different from 
> the current libs, *my* application breaks.  Or, you might get ripple 
> effects: what if I distribute a dll that depends on KDE's 
> libs, and Bob 
> has an app that depends on my dll?  Bob's app breaks because 
> my dll is 
> broken because you released new "compatible" libs.  Not good 
> -- and it'd 
> take a while to track the problem down too: (a) I need to 
> relink my dll, 
> and give it to Bob, and then (and only then) (b) Bob can 
> relink his app.
> 
> Blech.

The PE spec (as I read it) indicates that as long as a name is included
(ie it's not link-only-by-ordinal) then ordinals can change and nothing
will break.

It's only when the only link information is the ordinal that problems
will appear.

Rob

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