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Date: | Tue, 5 Aug 2025 10:08:56 -0600 |
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From: | Brian Inglis via Cygwin <cygwin AT cygwin DOT com> |
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On 2025-08-05 02:44, Old, Oliver via Cygwin wrote: > Hello Andrey, > >> Then do not mix environments. > > That is not my choice, but rather my supervisor's choice. I began > engineering our new CMake-based build system purely with MinGW > toolchains in mind, statically linked ones even since I already know how > well-received it would be if I required people to install a MinGW > environment and had them add it to their PATH. > > Then I was told we might have to abandon this new system if we can't > keep using our Cygwin toolchains. > > I know it is very unwise to attempt this and entirely unproductive. > >> Cygwin with automation scripts. > > I wish that was good enough, but I'm supposed to make it work with all > the GUI and integrated debugging capabilities the other toolchains have. > It is so very frustrating. > > Back to the technical aspects: I just don't see why the current command > line handling is supposed to be good. I find it to be very surprising as > its entire purpose is interfacing with non-Cygwin software. Why should NO - its entire purpose is interfacing with Cygwin and other POSIX sosftware, including on other systems, from MS cmd if users insist, but according to POSIX rules! We now have only limited support for some non-POSIX text files. > the "non-Cygwin" software assume the command line to be parsed according > to Bash's rules? It allows us to use tools based on POSIX standards, like terminals, shells, and utilities, under Windows, without running under a VM like WSL or alternatives, and with access to Windows filesystems, without *each* of us having to buy pieces of software which would work together,(Borland, 386^Max), or find and install a working toolchain, and build *each* GNU or BSD utility from sources *ourselves* (like news:comp.sources.…), as we used to have to do. https://cygwin.com/faq.html https://cygwin.com/: "Get that Linux feeling - on Windows "What... ...is it? "Cygwin is: • a large collection of GNU and Open Source tools which provide functionality similar to a Linux distribution on Windows. • a DLL (cygwin1.dll) which provides substantial POSIX API functionality. ...isn't it? "Cygwin is not: • a way to run native Linux apps on Windows. You must rebuild your application from source if you want it to run on Windows. • a way to magically make native Windows apps aware of UNIX® functionality like signals, ptys, etc. Again, you need to build your apps from source if you want to take advantage of Cygwin functionality." -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada La perfection est atteinte Perfection is achieved non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter not when there is no more to add mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retrancher but when there is no more to cut -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
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