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On 5/25/22 08:04, gs-cygwin DOT com AT gluelogic DOT com wrote:
> On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 11:36:21PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
>> I went back to the desktop computer that I have been using for Cygwin Perl
>> testing:
>>
> [...]
>>
>> 'make test' produced the following result:
>>
>> 99 wallclock secs ( 1.76 usr  0.41 sys + 342.21 cusr 375.40 csys = 719.78
>> CPU)
>>
> [...]
>> I ran Cygwin setup-x86_64.exe version 2.918 and upgraded all Cygwin
>> packages.
> [...]
>> I ran the cpan(1) shell and upgraded Perl modules:
> [...]
>>
>> 'make test' now produces:
>>
>> 211 wallclock secs ( 2.39 usr  2.71 sys + 525.68 cusr 998.78 csys = 1529.57
>> CPU)
> 
> You have merely demonstrated that there is a change in timing after
> upgrading *all* of cygwin environment and packages.
> 
> Basic troubleshooting by any competent admin involves making changes
> stepwise in steps as small as (reasonably) possible, and reperforming
> tests each step.
> 
> Next step: go back to your older system and upgrade only the Perl
> packages, then repeat the test.
> 
> If you are capable, try testing your cygwin environment on a different
> machine, preferably not a corporate machine with hidden BLODA, and with
> Microsoft Defender disabled (for the tests) (as previously asked by
> others).
> 
> If you are capable, try testing older and newer Perl installations on a
> different OS.
> 
> Annecdotally, I noticed about month or two ago that running my Perl
> Test::Harness slowed down dramatically after an upgrade of both kernel
> and packages on a Linux (*not Cygwin*) system.  I have not yet seen
> compelling evidence from you that the slowdown is due to Cygwin, and
> have seen data suggesting it is more directly related to Perl changes.
> 
> Other than your 'make test', do you have any evidence that anything else
> has slowed down as dramatically between the old and new cywgin packages?
> Any other shell scripts for which you tested the timing?
> Any other Perl scripts for which you tested the timing?
>    (and not run under 'make test')


I do not have the interest nor the means to bisect Cygwin, Perl, and/or 
CPAN looking for performance issues.


For my use-case (SOHO devops), Cygwin Perl performance is a "nice to 
have"; not a "must have". "Correctness" is the "must have".


I will continue to consider this question:

On 5/24/22 08:03, David Christensen wrote:
 > What is a suitable Perl benchmark?


David

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