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Subject:	Re: Cygwin/X: KDE Desktop
To:	Tony Richardson <richardson DOT tony AT gmail DOT com>
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From:	Maarten Hoes via Cygwin <cygwin AT cygwin DOT com>
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Hi,


TL;DR (The Management Summary) : I installed an old version (dated 2016) of
(all of) Cygwin where KDE does give me the 'full desktop' experience
(single MS-Windows window). Is there a desire for follow up (and more
details), in the sense that current Cygwin might be made to work as well ?


- Maarten



On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 6:57 PM Maarten Hoes <hoes DOT maarten AT gmail DOT com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> Thanks for the effort.
>
> Now that you mentioned that, I seem to be having similar behavior as you:
> Xfce start every time I try it. But now that I tried it some more, LXDE is
> not consistent for me either. Sometimes I get a black screen, sometimes a
> black screen and the right-click-on-background-menu, and sometimes a normal
> working LXDE environment. The first time I try to start LXDE after a reboot
> of my PC seems to work always, and after that I get mostly the black screen
> without pop-up menu. The only thing I seem to be able to reproduce reliably
> with LXDE is the first try after reboot.
>
> Also, after I have to exit from the 'black screen', I get some remaining
> 'bash.exe' processes left in MS-Windows task manager (regardless of what
> desktop environment/desktop manager I tried to start). Sometimes it seems
> to help if I kill these off before I retry to start LXDE, and sometimes not.
>
> Thanks again,
>
>
> - Maarten
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 6:18 PM Tony Richardson <richardson DOT tony AT gmail DOT com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 7:11 AM Maarten Hoes via Cygwin <
>> cygwin AT cygwin DOT com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> I tried a few different Desktop Environments for comparison. At least
>>> GNOME-Openbox, KDE-Openbox, Plasma, and MATE give me a black screen and
>>> no
>>> taskbar/menu, pop-up menu with right-click on background, etc., but I can
>>> start applications on them if I open a Cygwin prompt through the
>>> 'Cygwin64
>>> Terminal' icon by doing (for example) "export DISPLAY=:0.0 ; xterm".
>>>
>>> However, the LXDE and Openbox desktops do give me the familiar things
>>> (like
>>> a start-menu, right-click on desktop pop-up menu).
>>>
>>> I have no idea where to even begin with troubleshooting the issue (of
>>> getting KDE or GNOME working). Could it be as simple as some packages
>>> that
>>> have not been installed ? I installed these desktops by selecting the
>>> packages listed on the Cygwin/X website during the overall Cygwin
>>> installation (setup-x86_64.exe).
>>>
>>> Any and all help is appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Maarten
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 2:38 PM Maarten Hoes <hoes DOT maarten AT gmail DOT com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > When I run XLaunch and choose single window (or use the KDE 'Plasma'
>>> > shortcut), I get a black window (or grey, when also supplying
>>> '-retro'),
>>> > but I am not getting a desktop like when I do when I run KDE on Linux
>>> (KDE
>>> > taskbar/menu, pop-up menu with right-click on background, etc.). Is
>>> there a
>>> > way to do this ?  Or am I missing something obvious here ?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Any and all help is appreciated,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thanks in advance,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > - Maarten
>>>
>>
>> Sorry I can't provide help, I just wanted to mention that I have related
>> (I think) problems.  I only have the LXDE and Xfce desktop environments
>> installed.  Xfce starts consistently everytime.  LXDE only completely
>> starts every-other-time.  I get the black window one time (with a pop-up
>> openbox menu).  I can log-out and then the next time I get the full LXDE
>> desktop.  There is consistent alternation between the two. LXDE is my
>> preferred desktop, but I tend to use Xfce because of this problem.
>>
>> I thought that there might be some weird interaction in the configuration
>> files used by the different desktop environments so I deleted all the
>> config files (dot files) in my home directory but I still see the same
>> behavior.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
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