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| Date: | Mon, 30 Apr 2018 16:12:09 +0300 |
| From: | Andrey Repin <anrdaemon AT yandex DOT ru> |
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Greetings, Paul Sheer! > 6. cygserver-config does not work. It gives: > [[[ > psheer AT psheer-HP ~ > $ cygserver-config > Overwrite existing /etc/cygserver.conf file? (yes/no) yes > Generating /etc/cygserver.conf file > chown: changing ownership of '/etc/cygserver.conf': Permission denied > Warning: The following function requires administrator privileges! > Do you want to install cygserver as service? > (Say "no" if it's already installed as service) (yes/no) yes > /usr/bin/cygrunsrv: Given path doesn't point to a valid executable > Try `/usr/bin/cygrunsrv --help' for more information. > Installation of cygserver as service failed. Please check the > error messages you got. They might give a clue why it failed. > A good start is either you don't have administrator privileges > or a missing cygrunsrv binary. Please check for both. > ]]] This is expected. And the script outright warns you. > 7. Surely the above program can check if it is a privilege problem > or not and simply tell you? Why should I have to read through > documentation to enable a simple "checkbox" feature when it > can only be On or Off and there are no other options??? Contrary to *NIX, Windows runs from granular permissions system, and a user may have the rights to install service even if they are not a member of Administrators group. > 8. cygwin seems to have the concept of an administrator, but there > is no root user or way to switch to a root user using su. You expect Windows to be Linux/UNIX, but it is not. It has its own, much more usable permission system, and no God User as a concept. > If these things exist, then they should be there by default and work as > default so as not to require the user read documentation. wat > Is my default user the administrator? Even if it is, your current session may not have the permissions and would require an elevation. YOU should know. > It should be -- it is a home PC. "Home PC" is a marketing joke. > I can't even tell what the intended behavior is. It keeps asking me for a > password for psheer but I have never set a password on this PC. How could it know? > 9. There is no package management that works properly. The > install program setup-x86_64.exe seems to re-download things > that are already downloaded. It is kludgy and everything is ambiguous. > It seems unclear what is a label telling you the state, or a button telling > you to switch to a state. Surely it is easy to make a Gtk or Qt interface > for this package manager? Sure, if it's such a simple task for you - go ahead. Keep in mind that it must remain a single binary a user can just download and run. > How do you know what a "minimal" set of packages is? > Do I have to install everything? > If I install everything does it cache what it has downloaded so > as not to download everything again? > Normal windows packages do not require you ask any of these > questions -- the install interface makes it clear. Cygwin setup does work exactly the same way - you just click "next" until you get a working system. Would that system be able to solve YOUR SPECIFIC problem, remains to be seen. > 10. After trying to install more packages I now get: "The procedure > entry point __memcpy_chk could not be located in the dynamic link > library cygwin1.dll" As advised, you should have stopped all Cygwin processes before attempting an upgrade. > 11. Surely the Start menu should have a cygwin-packages menu > item to manage package, get dependencies correct, and verify > the integrity of an installation. You're more than welcome to submit and maintain such tools. > Ubuntu, when installed under Oracle Virtual box, does Copy-n-Paste between > Gtk and Windows and Unicode copy-paste even works perfectly That's VirtualBox does, not X, or Windows… > 13. Why do some binaries run on the command line and do nothing > and show no error??? Unix never does this. If you break your ld-linux.so, *NIX do the same. > I hope this all helps. Hardly. A lot of expectations (to put it mildly) from a volunteer-maintained project. > I'll be uninstalling cygwin now because I can't waist any more time on it. You could have done so without wasting our time with this message. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Monday, April 30, 2018 16:00:53 Sorry for my terrible english... -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
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