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On 17.04.2016 23:27, Andrey Repin wrote:
> Greetings, John Cowan!
>
>> Andrey Repin scripsit:
>
>>> Of course, it is efficient.
>>> More efficient, than starting a shell each time I need to diff a file.
>>> Or 2-3 shells, if you call a wrapper. Which is least efficient, considering
>>> retarded CMD quoting rules.
>
>> I always have 2-3 shells running,
>
> Having shells running, and having 2-3 shells start between a request and the
> result is not quite the same thing, don't you think?
>
>> more if I am editing a lot of files.
>
> Having shells running for file editing? Sorry, what year you are living in?

Editors like vim and others do have advances that other editors don't
have. It's not a question of year, it's a question of preference.
And of whether one goes over a high learning curve (like you also did,
i know) or a shallow one and stays there. (like some i have to do with
daily).

>
>> But you live in a GUI world and I live in a CLI world.
 >
 > WHAT?

i for example live in both worlds. GUI for many things, and CLI for
those things where the GUI exposes its shortcomings. That's why i say
Cygwin makes that OS complete.


>
>> And no, cmd does not count as a shell.
>
> And yes, it do counts as a shell. By definition.
>
Using cmd to argue about cli is a mistake.

Much like looking at the big churches and judging about God.



Now that's off-topic by far..

Herbert




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