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Date:	Thu, 06 Jun 2013 15:43:08 -0400
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On 6/6/2013 1:27 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> On Jun  6 11:06, Warren Young wrote:
>> On 6/6/2013 10:52, Dan Kegel wrote:
>>>
>>> I wonder if we could get them to recognize the parent-child
>>> relationship somehow, and keep the same address space
>>> in the child.
>>>
>>> Just kidding.   Hell would sooner freeze over.
>>
>> I don't know about that.  For a long time, they had a bigger
>> conflict of interest with Cygwin due to SFU/SUA/Interix and the
>> POSIX subsystem. They announced SUA's doom a couple of years ago[1]
>> and the need for a separate native POSIX API is gone[2].  I even
>> recall reading on this list that Microsoft now recommends Cygwin, at
>> least unofficially.
>>
>> Perhaps Microsoft now has some incentive to create a native fork(2)
>> like call in their OS that Cygwin could use.  (Or something close
>> enough, like Linux's clone(2).)
>
> The problem is not the call.  Such a call exists, since Vista even
> one with very simple usage.  The problem is that this call has
> been created for SUA, and some Win32 libs as well as the console
> subsystem don't work with this call because there never have been
> made provisions for a fork call in the Win32 libs.  Chances for
> a change are rather low.

So I should put away my ice-skates and pitchforks?  Wait, was that
a pun? ;-)

-- 
Larry

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A: Yes.
 > Q: Are you sure?
 >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
 >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email?

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