Sender: root AT squid DOT netplus DOT net Message-ID: <36EC884F.865A55F1@netplus.net> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 22:10:55 -0600 From: Steve Bergman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.3 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pgcc AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: Kernel References: <19990314052249 DOT T21035 AT cerebro DOT laendle> <19990315020634 DOT I19035 AT cerebro DOT laendle> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: pgcc AT delorie DOT com Marc Lehmann wrote: > I do have problems, but each revision gets indeed better. Networking works > again in 2.2.3 (imagine! ;), even when using pgcc. > > PS: this whole thread is getting too long, we should cut it down to > reasonable sizes (but I'm sure you think the same). Well, I guess I'm contributing to the thread's duration, but this is an important topic. I've been thinking a lot lately about Unix and how fragmentation has hurt it, and how one company was able to come in and take over the desktop market because the Unix world was so fragmented it couldn't prevent it. And then about how a group of people no one had heard of, callaborating over the internet, was able to come out of nowhere, eclipse the commercial Unix vendors, and threaten said company. How did they do it? By avoiding the fragmentation and conflict inherent in the commercial Unix world. What could send them down in flames? Fragmentation and conflict. It doesn't matter who's fault it is; Conflict erodes, and can ultimately destroy, the futures of the beautiful things that have been built by all these wonderful developers, and does it bit by bit by bit, almost invisibly, over time, like water dripping upon rock. The question is: How can everyone work together with a minimum of friction? Its impossible to avoid friction entirely, but everyone who cares has a responsibility to keep in mind the damage that friction inevitably causes. This is not a criticism of Marc or Linus. It's a simple observation about how really worthwile things can come to a premature end as the result of forces which were really no one's fault. Thanks for all the work that the pgcc, egcs, and other free/open-source software people have contributed. Sincerely, Steve