X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Message-ID: <5C63C909.9070307@xs4all.nl> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 08:36:41 +0100 From: "Bert Timmerman (bert DOT timmerman AT xs4all DOT nl) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110429 Fedora/2.0.14-1.fc13 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com, Tibor Palinkas Subject: Re: [geda-user] pcb-rnd is no longer on geda mailing lists References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfFAb7MNBurkjuplNU18QgW0/m1r0w79cRr9gzhShxw+TX/kOCKDXxAMb4dH68vJR877M/CQTSRYHWNWJ9ICpV2Iq5lDzIUGSDedIOnZslLB/43CTbvKY WI3pn1jThqbTDPCC/PxJQeVo55RMMFMdhHo1gBwQDEgZN+AZ/ImkSZ+yt/uAAmM7elLtaXqQSoBAVjZ0Q4N/1bhf9/lzR3a1zLo= Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote: > Hi all, > > the generic policy is that we provide "official" pcb-rnd support over any > channel our users can reach us. Since 2013, these channels included > geda-user@ and geda-help@. > > This is changing now: we are no longer providing pcb-rnd support on these > mailing lists. This means: > > - if you need help with using or switching to pcb-rnd, please mail me > directly or even better subscribe to the pcb-rnd mailing list or join our > IRC channel (#pcb-rnd on repo.hu) where we provide real-time help > > - the last pcb-rnd release announcement I relayed from the pcb-rnd mailing > list to geda-user was for version 2.1.1 (today); if the geda community > wishes to relay future pcb-rnd release announcements, someone will need to > volunteer for forwarding them > > - I've alerady unsubscribed from geda-help and will unsubscribe from > geda-user later on, so please don't expect to reach me via these > lists. > > Plans for the future: > > Meanwhile pcb-rnd is developing as fast as it did in the past few years. > We have great plans for 2019 too. We still have scheduled releases and we > still do a _lot_ between two releases. We are also building up our EDA > ecosystem (coralEDA) in collaboration with other EDA-related projects. > > For example I plan to have some more fetures that have long time user > request history. For example I plan to develop an _optional_ "click on a > network/component/pin on the PCB layout and get it selected on the > schematics or vice versa" support - I figured how to do it in a nice, > generic way, without any integration between the tools, allowing any new > tool to enter the same system very easily. In 2018 we found an sch editor > project that is interested in collaborating on these things so we can > finally add such improvements. > > Best regards, > > Igor2 > > > > Hi Igor2, Thanks for being here on the list with contributions to discussions and helping users by giving sound advice. I wish you well with pcb-rnd and hope it delivers your expectations, and the expectations the pcb-rnd user base may have. Choices have been made in the past, by the pcb user base, and by pcb developers as was seen fit at the time. Keeping pcb as stable as possible and not doing drastic changes to pcb is a choice too (only the "git vs svn" issue was a showstopper to me). I have learned from that period that pcb users are using and not developing, sometimes contributing a (large) patch or bug report, which are most welcome. I also learned that the decision for a fork was made before it was even discussed with me. Anyway, family life, the day job and another outdoor hobby keep me more than busy, hardly enough free cycles for pcb. BTW: I noticed an enormous amount of commits have been done in pcb-rnd over the last 3 .. 4 years, tens of thousands of them, my compliments to you. I guess you may have retired from your day job to be able to do that ? Future plans for pcb: There is a very small and active developer team for pcb at the moment, and to be frankly, I don't see that changing soon. Even if the amount of developers doubles it will remain a small team. The pcb developer team will continue polishing and shaving the edges of pcb, filling gaps in the user experience, repairing cracks in the plaster, etc. I guess nothing too drastic is going to happen in the pcb-4.x series ;-) As always with kind and sincere regards, Bert Timmerman.