X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=f63kPa/Siz6Ba9bQ/GpytaqjP2JL4tt8EVaMmuIn8+M=; b=i0NJVeFXP5VJr3nuTXPdSRV5VXTyGodZyBcD3RKAef3tZHss6ekjbT7IX13urCugYl w6vRKZEOdMp/hx58MKKcwBxMXGlJab5phFRa1Qo130LQOXn+Twq0ELEIqZoOM8LUdhq4 KzzK1aFvM2++352bX6lorLlUx19r/B+RbAre1gNsRZpLHuS8HmzA9BQ66QeRniGSAmm+ z+CrECuGwhTaZrA5GSVcMrchp+RQcC0wEjGovhwI5elIjPmhbpB6w0vB+FDhzyEdn+WI MXrJnc8VY8nw1SSbqUy08SpacVCkSSBYrDbi1RBlhT5XFUQWHT/AcB7NzNHVSWJU8Y1X 9SEA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=f63kPa/Siz6Ba9bQ/GpytaqjP2JL4tt8EVaMmuIn8+M=; b=B1tNpRQoYK+3bsBT13JhvVWISEMDzV12O3BWF9phWeyavdoEcPFsaG1hFgxk0LOtNe HrVHqIbP6lV1Fg9PJuFhJobDW+qB5LoCU0oXcr7njXYG6J/FIQbwLW4oiglIsva2O60r NEU4Fjip3vT5YKP+Qmga8Yrlp8PggcXSSHdSQV5c4DJXPtWl0leTyBZRb0Ime4VopqLE 3/RCEJ1lL9G3bjX7ycx7+6uLMFtH8Ql/Naw5bY7eCLgD4rFkNc/AeV8So5+h4NphdwXN SlY1NWYQ3W+ujnrU+4y1RzB4iQ5C/1IZMNLzVpA8dcAwtvhRFc1FJP1OZRdqIXBRGDrH rj2Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw1109LBwJvPVJz8GtRbo8nMxQmrVahumZvTyFhyb3DNl03XrchZu0 4/ZT0W70XDZKdNX+ X-Received: by 10.25.59.213 with SMTP id d82mr25350lfl.37.1500576127964; Thu, 20 Jul 2017 11:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 20:42:06 +0200 From: "Nicklas Karlsson (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] [chscem] slow start Message-Id: <20170720204206.32b0c314a8628ee18c9330ed@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <31B5BD5F-73B5-44F7-B1B2-19C01D7C9661@noqsi.com> References: <20170719141700 DOT a9a156f68d8968c53ce1e46a AT gmail DOT com> <31B5BD5F-73B5-44F7-B1B2-19C01D7C9661 AT noqsi DOT com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk > > xschem: > > VHDL / Verilog / Spice netlist, ready for simulation > > Behavioral VHDL / Verilog code can be embedded as one of the properties of the schematic block > > > > > > These xschem abilities will be good goals to include in cschem. > > > We already have these for SPICE in gEDA and Lepton if you use the gnet-spice-noqsi back end (https://github.com/noqsi/gnet-spice-noqsi ) for gnetlist. I believe both Lepton and Roland’s gnetlist replacement now give the back end writer enough support to do Verilog and VHDL right. So, we don’t need a new tool, just a couple of new back ends. Yes, I never had any problem to express any circuit in gschem. There are a few things missing but not many. Then it come to available libraries and backends the story is a little bit different. Predefined attributes should ideally be part of the backend. Online design rule check would be possible if backend is a plugin. I heard something about documentation layer in pcb-rnd useful to feedback data generated externally. > > John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. > http://www.noqsi.com/ > jpd AT noqsi DOT com