X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 63.119.35.194 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0A29B82E-A314-4225-8378-0CCA87FCCF01"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] scheme re-hash (was: ngspice integration in KiCad) X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail From: John Doty In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 20:49:26 -0400 Message-Id: References: <20160722171754 DOT GB17595 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <20160723065723 DOT GC17595 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <20160723092248 DOT GF17595 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <20160724053502 DOT GM17595 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <20160802091620 DOT GB3728 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <20160803040651 DOT 10ac6b40 AT akka> <20160803040914 DOT GB2649 AT localhost DOT localdomain> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_0A29B82E-A314-4225-8378-0CCA87FCCF01 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Aug 3, 2016, at 8:17 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via = geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 2:53 PM, John Doty wrote: >>=20 >> On Aug 3, 2016, at 12:09 AM, Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) = [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>=20 >>> On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 04:06:51AM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: >>>> "Vladimir Zhbanov schrieb am 2. August 2016: >>>>=20 >>>>> 2) You seem to have not gotten my reasons for choosing Scheme >>>>> after many repetitions. I've chosen it chiefly because it has >>>>> already been the core language of the geda-gaf project. >>>>=20 >>>> So your argument boils down to: >>>> "Let's keep scheme because we have got scheme." >>>=20 >>> Nope. >>>=20 >>> I prefer to evolve what we have rather than throw it away and >>> start anything from scratch. Reasoning: we have not enough man >>> power to do such big changes; we'll discourage the users who still >>> uses gEDA as is if we state that nobody supports it. >>=20 >> Guile is essential to everything in gEDA. Guile scripting is the = reason that gEDA can do so many things that KiCAD and Eagle can=92t. = Those who won=92t use Guile can=92t agree on what they will use. >=20 > Guile is only essential because it is the only plugin mechanism. If it > has been almost anything else we might be in better shape right now. What I see is a bunch of people who reject Guile because it isn=92t = their favorite, and they all have different favorites. I think this = crowd would have pretty much the same problem with anything. Come on, = Guile isn=92t that bad. If a sexagenarian astrophysicist can use it to = get things done, why can=92t you? >=20 >> John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. >> http://www.noqsi.com/ >> jpd AT noqsi DOT com >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Home > http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ > Work > http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/ >=20 > -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- > Version: GnuPG v2 >=20 > mQENBFYy4RYBCAC183JomLtbdAlcKiaPDoVHq52LDmVmH75aiEc69m7YxDt54/ai > VtYCAobbGVIyn3Hlz3uhF6LnPl/6Lm1VdnCfpwu3KQhCO6ds10ow2C30X4ohCqOd > hCVg5C+ILmQkEffFrFODy3ji+PYTF4pADvHCWsTMv0hf0llwFOJsBCK6cl02IffE > JPqy4PjM1nZ9HpzT84JBaG/4OGvTZ8SQ2yFUl265jagvygPTf88H1xpZHH1r8dB1 > stjUHLmPH8AOyDgKxFchgGeDc3p/vJtgDDIXAFfDXG0NSRovLmtaQdGxe47Zf/go > bXiEM7YL2WqQe5zfEA919JxkEwlDKYniOSVzABEBAAG0N0V2YW4gRm9zcyAoVGhp > cyBpcyBteSBwdWJsaWMga2V5LikgPGV2YW5mb3NzQGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JATkEEwEC > ACMFAlYy4RYCGwMHCwkIBwMCAQYVCAIJCgsEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRCIpQTcE8nN > bbBaCACAm8pU5lG1ev2Fsw68Axtcl57SJrYieqX96c3YuYH9JpqMqJRnd9nDKw9X > tQuvuH7tUk0VbOaDqReOYJVI/4c5wb9AaOFp6K2DUcupq6XhgXpvz3HzoPwjAdIj > XuQzdRUx5+innTJrSkGuBYW/CZ2zqEx4xfLlq4rO0hoTUMR8QVp2cCrkw6BT0m86 > APIw/ZnjoxM8IEzr7MxfRIg3qpzrZk28rmhx+k78Jyk61UhwcCPGIm/pjUopTwYJ > 3YBdRB2cYD2aN7A1JVf5cRmSQYooHBGpH0kYvomGk97PKqypVuJ7OpG9xM58wUcC > qUVt9hKlePLzP8csYjt8onqI7qIIuQENBFYy4RYBCADlH8spG3WkCx62vB5mr5Z0 > SCDd/RcyA4A5y5EOj5KurQkrSWpgi9Ho1yKruMJ6blQR2qkc66KqH9pnXDm/ZI1M > K/wdW3ngETxBmXoozzFMT89aEWIVR5/PFodWK1elekE9iJxACuR98Zg2QttTD3x8 > A9w8VEyMLOXcDTrPFpHegMKswFBg5iuMulAdXAoGejWTI3n+qKFpabHm2Lfs6wjk > 5rjucpTdeFK6UeWF1xAvNxXibuu5BlGwv53930qIXRwO/Gn2Rh5DXWxKU2fEIme/ > xgQQmIsDeUoWbfybdjw/x7Q0LW4mINiLDQcGHHRQKFIxbAJCT3USPLGh5xwE9/Er > ABEBAAGJAR8EGAECAAkFAlYy4RYCGwwACgkQiKUE3BPJzW0uYAf9Hf30n8tM3mR2 > Zo6ESE0ivgdgjaJtAWrBUx7JzAzPjBnBOlNnu5Y9lVEqetvUPH6e3PvaHYUuaUU8 > 0HwxuKBW9nUprgV6uIu1DZmlcp+SxpbuCy7RDpNocRLNWWFMaYYzznmTgfnTgD4D > gCq8Mf1mcfrluTkOAo+QNqbMfl1GISClopRqxVuAo59ewgMnFujwgd8w12BwWl24 > CzqOs5HqcUslePj+LzcjSNgVCklYwKl+0dsb/fctMOCtHodwqm2CBJ+zydvNmYkD > fxda/J91Z1xrah5ec++FL0L4vs+jCiIWJeupJFKlr1hCMZiiGH7W554loK5l4jv3 > EY347EidAw=3D=3D > =3DTa4p > -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- >=20 >=20 John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com --Apple-Mail=_0A29B82E-A314-4225-8378-0CCA87FCCF01 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXopEXAAoJEF1Aj/0UKykReq8P/i0QdBmYkHxyrZekHHPSwoh+ sYrTiGaAbXJcZrjttLKOtXFGxKmC3PWA2vOiYDXd8t16tsRBzB9MH/TMcl8G47at YRZIyAck95mhKZFISauthYl9kIup45gTRNzdoLmOEyss9hB2V2w3L+kpDZyhubtc dqOkqKpZJqlmA8TtlPQyR49qVNDoFICcaOZIE/HWKp6Bm0Sk0XzwrsNYk1mGk9QH 8x6n6/VyiZBjuFJ3rrhLIvYruKU+2YNcXp7MYyiSrKuoggwkTNGj7ey/kwSdhyQ+ 8btBDDNfacD6/Pbl2vuo2Ykbhn+w1hSOxrXUFXBmKYF5c7BdFRjlDN+znTNRA/0W S8xI1CtrkhbDX+69eE8/LvWU8+9dmZ23pwYWfqGj0lJxa6gXMC5v4QMs2RKAW8r4 htTZg/x3LZ0Hm6cjpYUG/wpaqz2lG2QzUt4JaehW+U425kSepDHKzY4nY5qV0Yvx V1C+t+9GB5bGtlKg6m0cVb1feO6XKOJa5NW3W7nfi+a8FnEI8GNQxw7pgZM1sWYv gY+bCQF4f4AGVEbPITTl/SPuj/rNtpBqSQO/4TJVjAxHvuDJoNKC+rqimNTKGvxe V8wWHC+iAroOFoRaYLQUJmFLZIRXGn/Vmy9VUpOD9nzKejMm0Fzt6Pteg0avA+Hy v2KWeQmhEnYEBGmGWTNv =S92p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_0A29B82E-A314-4225-8378-0CCA87FCCF01--