X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ySWHH7gYLk/GotDKDmh69Sy0Yq5pfO8Ag9WckqmxqWw=; b=vy3qhXJ3BByle0N5TXwsXR82nzgKKPTBmI19uCkfb1TQoDoTsdPWtwtxMm4zTVGWZz GNeVUOh8wp8ekpFIdswUQmMfC/E9+W9CC7/QmMlF5mpvusEQC7aQp5eKcbZeLd/x1Zqa LeBvF31EJznQlasSwUOzGBeNffDfVUl4++Park4MqOUmYhdAAf1oQ2Sv36BqvOxe/fJk G/TTjiB3EzJE97APTPCfxDbR88JKmDvUxwDi5AogS+8pyNnsDRyzgOnIHiRwPZl6hGI3 gfjcyR0VZU7+sJ9M229TADW6ps8Blo4IeiDmZuzFXcAk1aVRM2DohnXCT/wfSsmGYzhc uF7g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=ySWHH7gYLk/GotDKDmh69Sy0Yq5pfO8Ag9WckqmxqWw=; b=GOf50JO5MDFQyFEJKDFzvxxdKWwr1IkF7BZ8JeNj8VNaLotB/9gYD9fuFx+hQooizi zcPJutFv4+xvaPkuDYA7nbhDDny7i6zEgay52BJ2btSLwSuvm1b6v8hZVRF41wCYEHPt 6TcDhwE2Pm32hTHs4sPC945y5iILL7x3mML0zvC61THrIX80jB3XEHQUJ+zuw8PoSI/h QH1vq8n+8ZKJ9wBsLVy1+8yhLi4+gTsqf7YZE9hl+o0iUSF6X7SWzZpCCjc1ZXn6BVI7 wO/IZjxLWAMjCB/JSl+t1dn8LPWGHrRqlV/WFwDzJjNAxk/b3KRO5hl3QjQ52J1/GoTx KCSQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouuCbzolFojLqdCwxopZsx3Vge2SAvqffWwsakLdgCfj91a/obO/a1kc995Odahj2o56N+TwccSWYPOSbw== X-Received: by 10.36.37.146 with SMTP id g140mr62607824itg.58.1470161930453; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 11:18:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ED612EF-E3F5-48CC-8FB3-B67CA7DEE432@noqsi.com> References: <20160722171754 DOT GB17595 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <20160723065723 DOT GC17595 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <20160723092248 DOT GF17595 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <20160724053502 DOT GM17595 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <9719FF2C-AC85-4824-89E9-447216E7FA65 AT sbcglobal DOT net> <939E39F7-B4DA-4B56-A640-C7E6E4ECF955 AT sbcglobal DOT net> <9ED612EF-E3F5-48CC-8FB3-B67CA7DEE432 AT noqsi DOT com> From: "Ouabache Designworks (z3qmtr45 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 11:18:49 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] Plans for gEDA/gaf (was: [OT] ngspice integration in KiCad) To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11444200a0881805391abf87 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --001a11444200a0881805391abf87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 10:27 AM, John Doty wrote: > > On Aug 2, 2016, at 11:55 AM, Ouabache Designworks (z3qmtr45 AT gmail DOT com) > [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > > This group has shown almost no interest in features that are needed by IC > designers if they are not also needed by PCB designers. > > > What do you imagine IC designers need? I design mixed-signal ASICs in > gschem, and do not perceive any limits. Just another application for a > complete, general purpose network topology editor. > > John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. > > http://www.noqsi.com/ > > jpd AT noqsi DOT com > > > How about libraries that you can download that don't have naming collisions with other libraries? How about complete hierarchical design support with uniquification? How about Busses? IC's need support for wires,vectors and busses. Gschem does wires with some graphic support for vectors but nothing for busses. Gschem supports small data designs. IC designers need support for big data projects. John Eaton --001a11444200a0881805391abf87 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 10:27 AM, John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> w= rote:

On Aug 2, 2016, at 11:55 AM, Ouabache Desig= nworks (z3qmtr45 AT gm= ail.com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

This group= has shown almost no interest in features that are needed by IC designers i= f they are not also needed by PCB designers.

What do you imagine IC designers need? I design mix= ed-signal ASICs in gschem, and do not perceive any limits. Just another app= lication for a complete, general purpose network topology editor.

=

John Doty=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<= /span>Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.

http://ww= w.noqsi.com/

jpd AT noqsi DOT com



How about libraries that you can download that= don't have naming collisions with other libraries?

How about complete hierarchical design support with un= iquification?

How about Busses? IC&= #39;s need support for wires,vectors and busses. Gschem does wires with som= e graphic support for vectors but nothing for busses.

Gschem supports small data designs. IC designers need su= pport for big data projects.


Jo= hn Eaton





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