X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=drlD50crJxM4hA4hswMCou9oLD+mVOjQPvlHaIt/8QA=; b=u+B2o7lZy2Z04JdlwxWfU2xFe9wP0HVo4he/7K9Qy+yUc4ltEXTlx5xrObejPm81vM hOi9b5LDKhGcEaqE32kZmWG4n+VDhH9z7YzyZ9KQdGMUqqcGRDgQMu2UnO8EkpgiS4WQ rylp1wPYkrkAQheK4bMmlGZC13/bDdFLgKNUqfCJDqzy51mr+6DL69Tp1p0DE9u4KcoG HMGjblcIEM52hWorSXQuy9EZFvP1zqyjuKlC8+bCD1cfgsCp66NntizfJkoQHD/1jPoC NEdTNrUXFa7fg+3puAUnb9C1GYNNmpBLzv546TxDvYNa1FA01hQ5bUkePzq+Tcch+5TQ Zd8Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=drlD50crJxM4hA4hswMCou9oLD+mVOjQPvlHaIt/8QA=; b=g/Pp6GO6kefEV1Ug+iGfvJ3mTlTFZvpo0+kORk6RmazUNqFPkQ6SMCc7ARWHRariOP 1Ab8ja9/JLP+wpYp81IZaLudJum14bpighm6DYFJZSFfXvWvNnXbXH1Savt+9MFrNqJf GrG+GW8Sj4L8Vgmh+bSO9eJQTTM9s3Lxj6oz636KS2xcoOg3wLUHa40vq+p7hoE4hdiH 2/Ma5U6maXGg3R1x/670gqaunidAlYVo+Q8Wk0NNTvw9EfNGfLpG/acVT0VXyVLEzbFL /odi46HTm2svogHiE1NjGq0OqkDRHMoq1s5NgG1qBEYw5oPpgQzg0U/Mum4AG6M4Q0WR fLaQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkooutsOtOh3FG2rQhVGpAawlZsmJC2/84iKi5UjTmUkUv4YcrSHrHNhQ/D/wJIk6NUcwmyVkXGs9agZmcp2A== X-Received: by 10.28.35.86 with SMTP id j83mr50275884wmj.18.1469986450062; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 10:34:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201607311616.u6VGGhr9020892@envy.delorie.com> References: <575325A6 DOT 5020802 AT iee DOT org> <5753CE50 DOT 1020405 AT iee DOT org> <201607311616 DOT u6VGGhr9020892 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> From: "Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 09:34:09 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] pcb: ARC bug To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 8:16 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > The "working area" thing was around long before I started, and it > might have just been a naive way to make the software simpler. > > Aside from any negative-coordinate issues (which we could/should > probably just fix), the other reason that came up the first time we > discussed this was the problem of "losing track" of your perspective, > or the board itself. Consider a gschem startup where there's no > visible sense of scale, and the first part you add is a tiny dot... > > Yes, this is a minor point, but I don't think we got past it either. > Having an unbounded "zoom out" makes it difficult to do something > simple like show a reasonable scroll bar, for example. Little things > like that. Would it make sense to just have an area say 2x in each dimension larger than board? So you can stack parts "next" to what you're working on. IIRC zoom out is clamped something like this so you can't lose the board. Britton