X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 63.119.35.194 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_36E5DBFE-9F84-4CA6-A91B-91B16521B92C"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] [OT] ngspice integration in KiCad X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail From: John Doty In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2016 08:34:32 -0400 Message-Id: <98636CB4-9617-4966-9A5E-97F4263B2929@noqsi.com> References: <20160722171754 DOT GB17595 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <20160723065723 DOT GC17595 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <20160723092248 DOT GF17595 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <20160724053502 DOT GM17595 AT localhost DOT localdomain> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_36E5DBFE-9F84-4CA6-A91B-91B16521B92C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Please stop bad-mouthing Vladimir=92s excellent work. Guile is = fundamental to gschem and gnetlist, and any improvements to guile = scripting are improvements to the toolkit. None of this takes anything away from your excellent work on a different = approach. However, I do not approve of your ambition to have your = alternative replace gschem and gnetlist. That may happen naturally in = time, but it is not a reasonable goal to pursue directly. Please = concentrate on Xorn and its potential advantages. On Jul 28, 2016, at 5:30 PM, Roland Lutz wrote: > Hi Vladimir, >=20 > I took a few days off the mailing list and realized just how = ridiculous this is. Noone except hardcore Scheme fanboys is pretending = that Scheme is even a thing any more. >=20 > The point you're trying to make (Scheme being to C what C is to = assembler, etc.) was true at a time when there was nothing around like = Python, Ruby, or Haskell. In particular, the reasons you brought up for = choosing Scheme over other languages are even more true for Haskell. = The reason not to use Haskell is also the same as for Scheme: users = don't want to wrap their minds around some crazy programming language in = order to get things done. >=20 > Literally the only reason for not immediately removing Guile from gEDA = is that this would break existing setups. There is certainly no excuse = for making gEDA more dependent on Guile. >=20 > Your're desperately clinging to a dead horse. Please don't blame = others for not mounting with you. >=20 > Roland >=20 >=20 John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com --Apple-Mail=_36E5DBFE-9F84-4CA6-A91B-91B16521B92C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXnJ7YAAoJEF1Aj/0UKykRG2wP/0P9p5ojRZFCdYF6MqPX097w bKnWMuAB3+qgNUzqJ3T0fYCchAKjAS0xev4ermrbawlwr9E7pJNMcdpmUaCl1yi5 zBH28sL5Ag2YSBAjmMgTIM0KMLmdZUY5PufacVzLC7qxHvFj9TFLwTW9DMCeXowT q+lThQaBnkqWLWCKFR6n5GOJyLoG2v/m456cvGguxiCtIT4AD5T92ETvq1b1JBDC t26fCcKPj8wxZDFSHiqo5pA+DqRkHK1emr2HHlnd8ejEdvXl0HQNngtWRvC6Ztxm +hGLKZAtx6RXOX/Nndeylz5U2GuL7DE8vYdNdlFpzN5IS+IFpMqxvtvb0vYGpzp/ ZusHWrOEVJtik7ignWwkNJhCccy8+VVmp3MzMR9t+23QsS/47LxoNCa718WXhjiy wJtfHjTs5iPvye9moEIid3VUBAOKenbbzUfuocht+C7zKYgWn7ralP4ifGRlggu2 dM27ZSgFrRpFxKC8eA38YBZX4MMTMaO4A5j5ONaLx/j5lknlrcqXsz10mNOJLgqd jsGItGKD15569w2SMA5fhE34AbTaf9yRb2vMcFoPnpKDl6qxQ42JyTBiookS0Rwl R1+z+qhhEFiwGvfa/b16YbwVJHSW8UpLfk+4Rjur0R52tEkeGDD0bLG0a8LhVWn/ 2JKTEZJEtNdH1lp6+URZ =Xce4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_36E5DBFE-9F84-4CA6-A91B-91B16521B92C--