X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com From: Kai-Martin Knaak Subject: Re: [geda-user] Stay or go? Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 23:37:40 +0200 Organization: Institut =?WINDOWS-1252?B?Zvxy?= Quantenoptik Lines: 55 Message-ID: References: <98D1C4E4-581D-4A03-94E4-E0330960EADF AT wellesley DOT edu> <5793917D DOT 30208 AT xs4all DOT nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="WINDOWS-1252" X-Complaints-To: usenet AT ger DOT gmane DOT org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.75.103.191 User-Agent: KNode/4.14.10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id u6TLbs5o001035 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Bert Timmerman wrote: > While I was typing the former email ... > > I don't use KiCad, nor Eagle, nor other monolithic applications, ^^^^^^^^^^ For the record, kicad uses completely separate applications for schematic capture (eeschema), layout (pcbnew) and view (gerview). All of them can be used independently. Kicad users even explicitely export a netlist from eeschema. Just like geda's xgsch2pcb there is a GUI called "kicad" which manages projects and provides buttons to start the various components of the suite. Seen from this angle, there does not seem use a fundamentally different approach. It just happens that using the kicad project manager is the work-flow developers endorse as opposed to xgsch2pcb which sort of froze many years ago at proof-of-principle stage. Consequently the project manager is much more feature complete than xgsch2pcb and feels like the natural way to use kicad. > You probably "gain" a "push-and-shove router" in KiCad, so I was told at > FOSDEM-2015 (1) and FOSDEM-2016 (2). > > And recently integration with ngspice was announced ... YMMV There is a nice 3D rendition, too. The switch from geda to kicad adds the ability to have blind and buried vias in your layouts. This allows you to deal more easily with BGAs and densely populated boards. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmk&op=get