X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Envelope-From: paubert AT iram DOT es Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 08:21:48 +0200 From: "Gabriel Paubert (paubert AT iram DOT es) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] Stay or go? Message-ID: <20160724062148.GA28126@visitor2.iram.es> References: <98D1C4E4-581D-4A03-94E4-E0330960EADF AT wellesley DOT edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Spamina-Bogosity: Unsure X-Spamina-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spamina-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (-0.2 points) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: wellesley.edu] 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.4994] Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 05:18:17PM +0200, Stephan Böttcher wrote: > "James Battat (jbattat AT wellesley DOT edu) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" > writes: > > > Dear gEDA folks, > > > > I’ve used gschem/pcb for several (modest) boards now, and love many > > things about it. I do not love what I perceive to be deep friction > > and lack of cooperation among developers. > > > > It makes me wonder how long gschem/pcb will endure. And therefore I > > must decide if, as a user, I should invest any more effort to learning > > the platform and building up custom footprint/schematic libraries, > > etc, or instead transition now to another platform. > > > > This may be an unfair question to ask on this forum, but here goes: > > > > What do you see as drawbacks to KiCad (wrt gschem/pcb)? I’m on the > > fence about transitioning away from gschem/pcb. Why should I stay? > > > > James > > Same here, I am pondering the same, for the exact same reasons. > > My colleagues use Eagle and Kicad. Often they cannot do things that I > ask them to do, because the tool has lots of builtin heuristics that > prevent it. gaf and pcb are transparent, general, orthogonal and > sufficiently low level. What they lack is discoverability, especially > pcb. Orthogonality could improve a bit, again, mostly pcb. > > I don't know Eagle nor Kicad. I'll probably try Kicad for the next > project that is sufficiently disconnected from the previous ones to make > it worth starting from scratch. I may very well come back to work on > geda to keep it working for me. > > There is a patch I submitted a long time ago to gnetlist, implementing > functionality that I depend on, but that was never looked at by anybody. > This is very discouraging, when it comes to invest time for coding. > > I am also discouraged by the requirement to use a lauchpad account, > which I don't have, and do not want to have. Wow, I go away for a couple of days and two long threads appeared while I'm not looking! This said, I'm also among the people who flatly refuse to open an account on LaunchPad. Gabriel > > Cheers, > -- > Stephan