X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=OK23FgAoz6SN+mHEl6iZRyNFIkWhS5fpnQl4KX3V1fg=; b=jdHswDxrTUg9aaj90ZkrG89WNRwDLhC2is0JOxVfTX1/C2cisdQF+RVlsPJYZ00kEJ gUvmMCCCyHT6grhGSExjw5X3GIdZgk9BjYGmH3uDzxhp86f4HTaqT9vLgCq4tWEuNqjR W0+BqGt+tZ8NHvWr2vGSdfoTLUQpkeWnBDeYfWow7a5wlIjeK2YD9XLzc+dlx+SxZg5M aB4FXrnDvZdOkYp+wlg5tkmav7rXFtmEhg640XjLomQ+FuN6puNs7FgDjYX3o1Dh4H7x RJnD8h/dLYsj/EsUWReaMy1018iotaptQjUzCZ/3HRHdHgeHdwSLtU4hUnj2E0jB28Xj 3jLA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=OK23FgAoz6SN+mHEl6iZRyNFIkWhS5fpnQl4KX3V1fg=; b=DYWhd7Siv33zkziU081mHuPC2rBPrpwBvJEdK4ncT1E/y7GBnW4h5EMKJIimnr5Xp/ PvlWJE4EecofjoHhWnGEl90yhSqW3xiOIe2R4+c+MuUFEJBuf/7YNB/PfD8cJ7cznZap fu4FBbGIcX2K9IlBii7NIZBnaQVQXfUkdfQ5g+69zdzsI2GiVmAwEYu2q1c/XjlYeWu5 FtWFxuX0w7gYxOTb4dK5RmqOmC9RUirGfP7Vlp6WwwdNOF//dniVTlarRYFT119ZhUqY Dffw93xevKRz8uBTRBTjGmBhf5QMa6DBXPY2Q2My8r3U5+ATo3aS9geIua92e80F7fxp qZUQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkooutzNNDConNJNak2Jp8MGeoOs+jVa9EfxRSvl4euIcyUczdJMfnuyimNzH4I9PW7CCwqi4Zvp7Ie65n0Ew== X-Received: by 10.194.26.166 with SMTP id m6mr9230438wjg.120.1469338907446; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 22:41:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160724044003.GL17595@localhost.localdomain> References: <98D1C4E4-581D-4A03-94E4-E0330960EADF AT wellesley DOT edu> <57938EAB DOT 3020106 AT xs4all DOT nl> <20160724044003 DOT GL17595 AT localhost DOT localdomain> From: "Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 21:41:46 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] Stay or go? To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 8:40 PM, Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 05:35:07PM +0200, Bert Timmerman (bert DOT timmerman AT xs4all DOT nl) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > ... >> John Doty is right in that gschem will not lock you into pcb. >> >> gschem and gnetlist do give *you* the choice where to go for *your* next >> step in the workflow *you* want to follow. >> >> pcb is just one possible further step, and osmond, verilog, vhdl (ghdl), >> gnucap or ngspice are other possible steps (see "man gnetlist"). > > While I agree with you here, there is another side of the > coin. There are netlister's backends nobody uses and nobody > reports their state. A few months ago one user has reported vams > is broken. Looking at it I've discovered it is broken about a > decade ago. No special tests were made at the time of its creation > so just nobody knows... > > I am saying about this because my intention, which I am going to > implement, is stripping our repository by removing various > obsolete/unused/non-working thigs. Of course, I'll ask our users > here about any of them, if/when I do this. Good idea. Things can always be brought back, but as it stands users have to guess which are the functional bits. Same goes for parts of some of the packages, e.g. gscheme hides it's useful general schematic components amidst a random smattering of obsolete vendor-specific crud. Ideally the web site/repo/whatever should reflect as accurately as possible the state of its components in terms of user base and testedness. This is especially important for minority software like gEDA where fear of being alone can deter users. Britton