X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=AbuZDp6y3OaMvK3dEF1Gj2q9LNgDhtdfusOdnm8JPmc=; b=Zp3W9sfCS71y2LP+9n4UAUaBOKdQKhz+V+lS/QewIn7Qg65WtxWUvL3zlAinAZEdEl jKcmMOym/lwUqOLuRyTcDeIz74JyIfBKDyJPMqaZJNCGGnO1zLKMSepuexfA47NoihO4 HO9+2gZPgQ5T+WCDqmO/CNTtf2RgFeA/JUKzu9s2+OsGO5eErrtIU8+QX6OHtlNOpxfC S2qFmjK9Z83Jxg4pNrkZYM7CtEn//C0D2f1JARu1knFNxPQmJdRmOUbF7NignGOPmIrD 7Gd+9wekqmEBoftCK7B9V4UsehQZ2f1VXTXwvbIBuX2icwuz8gW3bgt6SZAiBdCAqrZK KDeA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=AbuZDp6y3OaMvK3dEF1Gj2q9LNgDhtdfusOdnm8JPmc=; b=eGyxy9h+sydrX9KSJgTRlQ1ABFIcF6IXsUmbda19tNkfckOB6IrKXJqXciUDFzUEjP 4ZRLNiA8XEjEr+RFkKv52kfMFaFQcv1eP4WZ4xNtPFT0m5Wh222dzizK9kNmLYAIlfni QrgQaVQv1Ea1J4gm6HQbcNljLF2M4V4EnIWmwzNjd6qOdQ0mRoJ1bs08uMAVKRJXCcpn H/lduHt7Nc2cH55k8BNOiOleSVbb+9kt7NI/6IvpGrurF0REoRueqkP2XfnvVdgukmbd kkdBX1hG4AsQLPy16yqkNzQl6DX+mrSY16eSYgW/S/KGwfQ4j4cKCRmoTm6JrERXw0Z6 lWWw== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouu1K8PJCwCDE1kh2jpRVVSMpE6UMrUimx7JiurGuwJ01AaZIzkmoCr+JtVNG2iF3U0CNmf8PoW1I61j5A== X-Received: by 10.25.26.193 with SMTP id a184mr3781639lfa.219.1469234819076; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:46:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160722171754.GB17595@localhost.localdomain> References: <20160722171754 DOT GB17595 AT localhost DOT localdomain> From: "Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 00:46:58 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] [OT] ngspice integration in KiCad To: gEDA users mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 10:00:53PM +0100, Gareth Edwards (gareth AT edwardsfamily DOT org DOT uk) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > ... >> May be of interest to the gEDA community > ... >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2_-hdRcf4U > ... > > We were proud, and we have grown poor. > > Some day before, we were ahead. Sad but true. > Now, this is what we have due to everybody want 'do it my > way / in my preferred language', I believe. The advantage of such a statement is that any one who responds will inevitably risk being the creator of a flamewar by restarting those two fights. All they can do is talk in very general terms. > BTW, I have prototyped some (very) minimal simulation workflow. I > did it when I learned nullor. If anybody is interested, I could > publish the code. How is this different from the makefile driven simulation we already have? I mean we already support ng-spice and others. The ways in which we are lagging are most glaring to new users in pcb and in compatibility with other programs. There is one prize left up for grabs that will pull a lot of the user base that cares about open hardware and wants open software to do it. Compatibility with Eagle and KiCad. I know I have pushed for other stuff in the past but I think we need compatibility now or we will fall so far off the map no one will consider using much less contributing to gEDA or it's forks. > -- > Vladimir Evan -- Home http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ Work http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/ -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v2 mQENBFYy4RYBCAC183JomLtbdAlcKiaPDoVHq52LDmVmH75aiEc69m7YxDt54/ai VtYCAobbGVIyn3Hlz3uhF6LnPl/6Lm1VdnCfpwu3KQhCO6ds10ow2C30X4ohCqOd hCVg5C+ILmQkEffFrFODy3ji+PYTF4pADvHCWsTMv0hf0llwFOJsBCK6cl02IffE JPqy4PjM1nZ9HpzT84JBaG/4OGvTZ8SQ2yFUl265jagvygPTf88H1xpZHH1r8dB1 stjUHLmPH8AOyDgKxFchgGeDc3p/vJtgDDIXAFfDXG0NSRovLmtaQdGxe47Zf/go bXiEM7YL2WqQe5zfEA919JxkEwlDKYniOSVzABEBAAG0N0V2YW4gRm9zcyAoVGhp cyBpcyBteSBwdWJsaWMga2V5LikgPGV2YW5mb3NzQGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JATkEEwEC ACMFAlYy4RYCGwMHCwkIBwMCAQYVCAIJCgsEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRCIpQTcE8nN bbBaCACAm8pU5lG1ev2Fsw68Axtcl57SJrYieqX96c3YuYH9JpqMqJRnd9nDKw9X tQuvuH7tUk0VbOaDqReOYJVI/4c5wb9AaOFp6K2DUcupq6XhgXpvz3HzoPwjAdIj XuQzdRUx5+innTJrSkGuBYW/CZ2zqEx4xfLlq4rO0hoTUMR8QVp2cCrkw6BT0m86 APIw/ZnjoxM8IEzr7MxfRIg3qpzrZk28rmhx+k78Jyk61UhwcCPGIm/pjUopTwYJ 3YBdRB2cYD2aN7A1JVf5cRmSQYooHBGpH0kYvomGk97PKqypVuJ7OpG9xM58wUcC qUVt9hKlePLzP8csYjt8onqI7qIIuQENBFYy4RYBCADlH8spG3WkCx62vB5mr5Z0 SCDd/RcyA4A5y5EOj5KurQkrSWpgi9Ho1yKruMJ6blQR2qkc66KqH9pnXDm/ZI1M K/wdW3ngETxBmXoozzFMT89aEWIVR5/PFodWK1elekE9iJxACuR98Zg2QttTD3x8 A9w8VEyMLOXcDTrPFpHegMKswFBg5iuMulAdXAoGejWTI3n+qKFpabHm2Lfs6wjk 5rjucpTdeFK6UeWF1xAvNxXibuu5BlGwv53930qIXRwO/Gn2Rh5DXWxKU2fEIme/ xgQQmIsDeUoWbfybdjw/x7Q0LW4mINiLDQcGHHRQKFIxbAJCT3USPLGh5xwE9/Er ABEBAAGJAR8EGAECAAkFAlYy4RYCGwwACgkQiKUE3BPJzW0uYAf9Hf30n8tM3mR2 Zo6ESE0ivgdgjaJtAWrBUx7JzAzPjBnBOlNnu5Y9lVEqetvUPH6e3PvaHYUuaUU8 0HwxuKBW9nUprgV6uIu1DZmlcp+SxpbuCy7RDpNocRLNWWFMaYYzznmTgfnTgD4D gCq8Mf1mcfrluTkOAo+QNqbMfl1GISClopRqxVuAo59ewgMnFujwgd8w12BwWl24 CzqOs5HqcUslePj+LzcjSNgVCklYwKl+0dsb/fctMOCtHodwqm2CBJ+zydvNmYkD fxda/J91Z1xrah5ec++FL0L4vs+jCiIWJeupJFKlr1hCMZiiGH7W554loK5l4jv3 EY347EidAw== =Ta4p -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----