X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at neurotica.com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=neurotica.com; s=default; t=1463592837; bh=0xenkn8pAn2XZJkLR4gDe3+EaiE7g5/dilwEUQzjyvM=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=hUlzEL3m0KDaVgFrJZc0KEdRTmcn+WPBowhcOVF17wMto0sogwmsW669TMcPiujRa WYOkPUUFm/bxGwg8fJiBODCueoRrjeIuJgpI3TDZO5MbPh1H91VIqbLBpBX5rewNZo dcKGmGzQFQ5tR7XKHpADQhmikRvKxHob9tiEtqu0= Subject: Re: [geda-user] Freerouting? To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com References: <573C9E22 DOT 9050609 AT neurotica DOT com> <573CA1C7 DOT 3080402 AT iee DOT org> From: "Dave McGuire (mcguire AT neurotica DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <573CA784.1060103@neurotica.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 13:33:56 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <573CA1C7.3080402@iee.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On 05/18/2016 01:09 PM, M. J. Everitt (m DOT j DOT everitt AT iee DOT org) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >> Hey folks. What is the current state of Freerouting with gEDA/PCB? >> Are we able to interface to it at all, in any way? >> >> (We discussed this at length about two years ago, and, predictably, >> the discussion devolved into another argument that had little to do with >> the subject at hand.) > > Can't beat a good bit of bike-shedding ... *eg* Exactly. I spent hours googling, and I found that several people had worked on DSN/Specctra interfaces, and, as was also very predictable, they can be found in about six completely different and unrelated places on the net. This is really quite ridiculous. I have been a daily gEDA/PCB user for fourteen years, in both personal and professional contexts. Over that time, the projects have become so incoherent and incohesive (is that even a word?) that even I, having used it every day for nearly a decade and a half, cannot figure out what's going on. It seems that there is no "one true" gEDA or PCB! Note well that I'm not sitting here complaining that nobody will step up and do a ton of work to improve something that's free. It'd just be really nice if people would just stop creating these additional repositories with patches and fixes and plugins and blah blah blah that will (inexplicably!) never get merged into the main package, instead there are half a dozen completely different packages, being worked on by different people with different divergent feature sets, that all claim to be gEDA or PCB. Is it really impossible for people to work TOGETHER on this project? -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA