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On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 09:29:25AM -0400, Larry Martin wrote:
> > sidestep the issue
> 
> On 5/12/2016 4:22 PM, M. J. Everitt (m DOT j DOT everitt AT iee DOT org) [via
> geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> >
> >On 12/05/16 20:05, Ivan Stankovic (pokemon AT fly DOT srk DOT fer DOT hr) [via
> >geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> >>>sql-backed objects
> >>>gets you rtree, undo and file format for free, and most of the nasty
> >>>bits of current pcb are gone.
> >>I prefer human-readable and human-writable formats, though I admit
> >>sql solutions do have some advantages.
> >>
> 
> >Whilst the human-readable files/formats have their merits, and the
> >ability to 'hack' the saved files around with text tools is pretty
> >wonderful, it does sidestep the issue of not being able to actually do
> >the original tasks easily in-program and having to hack the saved files
> >manually instead....
> 
> I have seen individual OrCad users spend hours clicking each
> component in a design to make a simple change.  I could have made
> the same change in a gEDA save file in a few seconds with a text
> editor.  Resources are always limited, and the GUI always falls
> short somewhere.  Even if the GUI does everything you want, the time
> to figure out how to do it may not be economical.  With human
> readable save files, you can always get the job done and move on.  I
> rely on my text editor in gEDA/PCB work for functions that _are_
> supported in the GUI, but I can do them faster in emacs.  It's one
> of the reasons I like this toolchain.
> /rant

Exactly. Back when I was using OrCAD, in 1990 if I remember correctly, I
once edited a schematic with a hex editor to modify references, because
two sheets were identical except for the references needed for the layout.

    Gabriel