X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JQ2oid9EM/Qh25VLBL8Lsb9TaSzRNfJ49DIYkRncv7Q=; b=PiUSpepu+UjBmXS9DCfK8knwGJLovcpH0779YofJxMApmW78HRY1DnHGLLN43SPVps 38DSZdJcepZYez/j9a8idNVBC+9WLxzeNrB6EyYe/c6n8bcXiqGU4HVkg7OEWiftSa/Z FXiq8zFF6VPP2vox8VanUj6u+1kHujUtGB0j/46lkPZqXcPthY79ScJqZKS8ehAliZK/ l2zigQHWxRhq9i6y5RHbEGyvp6LOzp5NJdAuTMnwSaCKSrviv+/rSLcTysFZf3S7gSXE uxdvOFOf1lswB3z0UilZfGSVGm11dYiPHduUgiDume5Pn2JKojeAZKK56qlUtvwqjuDU 6QtQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JQ2oid9EM/Qh25VLBL8Lsb9TaSzRNfJ49DIYkRncv7Q=; b=gazDvN7Z8nprtI+/Bx5C4HvbC/GRhlP8xnhA27dCDSTye0KYLJWjreZDeG6jdStgsG +4bKKNuaTSfB3TgUNizfDUF0R/Ha/zyN5qUEM6viDEiUaOFrGxz1hrJg++LiQ9Uk4hjC 6Fzye8dQfbDkSNw9LtYbK3pqzmTvdbaJgOr7OJx1zCN6k7T7GcgOBeTJgA56OnzeI1ok U5IrnHu3dIBXdwItbAwQzHsN2yzO/EDIl0BkRU348/0pcODhCiAIq4SeZL19iiOec5k8 BbziadG+rmbfcI4nDJ5pRDRZ3FIQAw/YR1UGorrbwb2CeyBRxHfpV78ZZmI8OjNSNAuk W+Kg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJL+zu9ufy28HrrbnbrEWz+aaWNrc2xxGoyY4ufzBlXywfVqN+DD/c+kXKgjxTdAfw== X-Received: by 10.194.90.229 with SMTP id bz5mr38297079wjb.143.1458636373517; Tue, 22 Mar 2016 01:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:46:07 +0100 From: "Nicklas Karlsson (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] mucs autorouter Message-Id: <20160322094607.cee6b1c25766f63129957b2b@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0beta1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk > gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote: > > > Input: http://igor2.repo.hu/tmp/tut.pcb (+ a netlist) > > Output: http://igor2.repo.hu/tmp/tut_routed.pcb > > > > I could invest some more hours and rewrite the util to be a plugin. > > IMHO, plugins are a less than optimal concept in the case of low volume > low traffic projects like pcb and EDA in general. In particular, the way > plugins are done in pcb presents enough additional obstacles that I tend > to not use them at all. Plugins need to be compiled separately for each > version of pcb. There is no mechanism to pick automatically the "right" > binary. Since I like to use both, the stable version from stock Debian and > bleeding edge from git head I end up with plgins not working half the > time. In addition, plugins do not track advances of the main source. So > they bit-rot and tend to "go away". Would it be possible to keep them in a separate plugin directory in ordinary source? Or is this already done? > > More generally, do anyone like the example output? Or the idea of > > the "biased layers" (hirozontal traces on one layer, vertical on > > another, plus a lot of vias)? > > Biased routing is what I teach students as a default strategy for manual > layout. It automatically prevents the most common blunders: Big road > blocks due to parallel tracks on both sides of a two-layer layout. The > result is reasonably close to optimum most of the time. Our preferred fabs > do not charge extra for additional vias (unless they come in ridiculous > amounts) I agree and guess it would be usefule with more than one algorithm available if there are several to chose from. Nicklas Karlsson