X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_204C2D1F-A493-4430-AC81-FEBA3502EAE8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] pcb import schematic crash, parantheses in netname X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5.2 From: John Doty In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 12:44:33 -0700 Message-Id: References: <20160215215221 DOT fd472794e7b9446a243bfc40 AT gmail DOT com> <201602152055 DOT u1FKtM4K011038 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20160215220938 DOT bbc7eaa59d827cd0b261ea97 AT gmail DOT com> <201602152135 DOT u1FLZrw9012774 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <7F210DE7-0A0B-42F9-ABBE-2C2768621186 AT noqsi DOT com> <20160216081722 DOT 1065cbed6653d3da4ffc7498 AT gmail DOT com> <201602160724 DOT u1G7Ox26001785 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20160216085628 DOT b70143c330cd4da98a4603d3 AT gmail DOT com> <201602160805 DOT u1G85d8c003148 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20160216092912 DOT 7f7439f703b49175a21dbb1b AT gmail DOT com> <201602161715 DOT u1GHFMBB028078 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201602162032 DOT u1GKWL7Y005291 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_204C2D1F-A493-4430-AC81-FEBA3502EAE8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Feb 25, 2016, at 12:04 PM, Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) = [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 5:39 AM, John Doty wrote: >>=20 >> On Feb 25, 2016, at 12:40 AM, Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) = [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>=20 >>>=20 >>> No, for a tool kit sane behavior involves a certain amount of >>> consistency. >>=20 >> Yes. Allowing any UTF-8 character in any string is simple and = consistent. Arbitrary rules make it harder for the user. This is = especially true for >=20 > And pcb doesn't do it. Nor does any other downstream flow as far as I know. However their = restrictions are all different. It is gschem=92s job to give the user = the freedom to feed them what they need. > So in the case of gEDA, it's inconsistent, not > consistent, and the current rules are arbitrary, not predictable. There are many, many inconsistencies between the design of gschem and = the design of pcb. We really should separate them: they are different = projects that can interoperate, not sanely part of the same project. = They will never be consistent. > It > might be great if pcb handled it (debatable IMO) did but it doesn't, > and you're not volunteering to fix it. You guys have worked hard to convince me that pcb is irreparable. > So you're attitude is screw > pcb users (new ones in particular), No, my attitude is that the limitations of pcb should not translate into = limitations of gschem. > I'm not even gonna set one > deconsistification switch so they can have a less buggy experience. The problem is entirely on the pcb side of the interface. > I > think that's a bad attitude I think you hate the freedom and power gschem/gnetlist offers to users. > but you're obviously decided about it and > we're repeating ourselves, so I'm done with this thread now. >=20 > Britton >=20 John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com --Apple-Mail=_204C2D1F-A493-4430-AC81-FEBA3502EAE8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWz1miAAoJEF1Aj/0UKykRQ8QP/38uNgIEaqlNNQ/ndjzIf5xN 5mrr0AVCoxNzzgUpcOOd5H6R+wetGmcfVps5wTb0vasnG19HRlmrwwV7+COAXZFh 8UfTVe6COoBpXz+5Uw2kkYh6lzWMvX+Oeqs/RcgBBDye20PMu28uvkZHYbo9cyGd Gr1Rc4kI7WqyJfnDxLHWjw57fB1UhFIZDrHVAJjgwbTg7cZ0sfpTP8EvGjlBSNV+ pQihSWFHs2CSSnHlU7plWpjw8166a0fNfbt7gJhw57+ZvkC3dms2Op0IPHXZzJsh 9xxxFichADyrSdSvxMcI3oKTJVhVb49KQmgq5yqRjvKgJeV6Q8F0saoDLhchDjsH TxYGxyg9FhN6kEz1sKI9U79es0YIvUNqgzt0pJAyY3/DSW1/RyLp9PrjnQQCVND6 oj8XcF6KlIXuksjQ6uP6XvAjs+VtR+Ub8th4XByWzfwVs4UEum5n75h2mYwLdenZ 4Y0t1bnNDvCBQAlcJ+Xv5/XQHrnjS9VirSaUfjg7IQbhIVzk7B71sczzvvTOUh2A SkCsQNRsQURMlh63oBiPiXRfxmDPa4reSl5Te5YGm4sThEesNULViGsYltBGwurO pdcy0xSWsy3uc7byHn9z0HWu90aKlw9wbXOwAQGACcFHitJUHkL7ImhiqZR+JCCw UqJzgTSA5uXrzj4i80oE =yWgo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_204C2D1F-A493-4430-AC81-FEBA3502EAE8--