X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LiCZo/BF01/4FTqoCUn4+xPBHNj4hyP4HjUpbjnspoo=; b=Rt6x9Gxnx01MvxmQEclrfs+sXL6gw/Pssfqn7brkEvJZ299Bb4x6Bcv4Ifit9/RZuH LLahSziI94BTLOZinuECND4Nvyg9UAakfxNAJW6ZBCRayJqHz7GCr1GJkiMOA14bylT6 jKGFAiXFwwW9J/Aw/BrmbCEifI1Pkm4Q7PIJVKngHl4xHTKJ6lsbTqnMHxyDaxoyYysI PWjUDdnCdabmE1UdpqUaO7aiTi7vnx5awkALXc4PShVMw/PPrKph3TAs/TSH7JuJmkKv CnvPRzHDxGseJGegH5hDQAkAEAlkFHpfaC6/MhNs9lwzDSclKgWMCYXUNpZqHfuMoE5+ qhyg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LiCZo/BF01/4FTqoCUn4+xPBHNj4hyP4HjUpbjnspoo=; b=W2jokn31aihwHSJXmbW/lmQwnMVUoTKkVeZsatHXxAM3GgXzc5Mp9ZB7IZFW1sGO/i F+SajE7FByS9Ws6y5F2nQhQsBSERd61iXpmIw9f3c5KGHL39iAg+RqFNuGMyX7faiBUy UoEwOzXkm1GqtCLiv5QXc3qu6lwcfYAWkUaJfZW4wwwglvCVx8EBHeqqgxQG64Oy+2yV RpIqXJFrUUnUl/giXCeVkDaQoNF49smIHoga+YZvaYmstUpG9kHdo4YLVgBnc2HT/T4D hNVyKg2q1n9QMuw8kd6Nrh3DV2ejxtTCNlytQIdg2908yDWxO3nKlfAi7A28HPNYnvEu SEww== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YORufZMvSbEywIp86/DAA7IL5dtat80ZXWZOgAVVPGqgBaOaVVBu0XnZkUSRcze4Uw== X-Received: by 10.112.210.165 with SMTP id mv5mr3373143lbc.0.1456131637196; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 01:00:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 10:00:32 +0100 From: "Nicklas Karlsson (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] pcb import schematic crash, parantheses in netname Message-Id: <20160222100032.2a617987588f775c0be13741@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20160215215221 DOT fd472794e7b9446a243bfc40 AT gmail DOT com> <20160216081722 DOT 1065cbed6653d3da4ffc7498 AT gmail DOT com> <201602160724 DOT u1G7Ox26001785 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20160216085628 DOT b70143c330cd4da98a4603d3 AT gmail DOT com> <201602160805 DOT u1G85d8c003148 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20160216092912 DOT 7f7439f703b49175a21dbb1b AT gmail DOT com> <201602161715 DOT u1GHFMBB028078 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <201602162032 DOT u1GKWL7Y005291 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20160222074947 DOT 0f31d0ee70fbc56e2b4123ad AT gmail DOT com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.0beta1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk > >> >> What to you mean by dodge them in the back end? > >> > > >> > There’s code in gnetlist that allows a back end to alias refdes > >> > and netname values that violate its rules. > >> > >> Rather than rewriting them, it would be better to just trap them and > >> give a reasonable error message. This would be less good than a > >> gschem that catches them immediately, but much better than the current > >> situation. ... > > > > To trap them and give a resonable error message would be the correct > > path. They could be catched in gschem but it will not work if there > > are differences between back ends so then running gnetlist would be > > the correct point. > > The gnetlist backend needs to know the synatx and semantics of the > output format it produces. The syntax spec includes quoting needs and > methods. It needs to implement them. Correct. > The receiver may add additional restrictions to the semantics, if > needed, like allowed characters in refdes, and throw warnings or error > messages when those are violated. It does not make a lot of sense to > implement the list of disallowed characters twice. Yes > There must not be seqfaults. This is important. As is now there is a seg fault for parantheses then using import schematics in pcb but not then using load schematics. > It does not make a lot of sense to restrict the allowed char set too > much. Maybe somebody wants to use verilog to generate a PCB netlist, > with netnames like \top.core(3,56).x[0] and pin names like \d[4] . > > As for UTF-8, all my resistor values include the unit Ω, and a lot of > capacitors use µF. Ωµ are good. Characters from other languages are also good. > Stephan Seems like we are on the same track. Regards Nicklas Karlsson