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From: Kai-Martin Knaak <knaak AT iqo DOT uni-hannover DOT de>
Subject: Re: [geda-user] Stop playing stupid political games with gEDA
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2015 20:20:45 +0200
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Svenn Are Bjerkem (svenn.bjerkem-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg AT public DOT gmane DOT org) 
[via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:

> On 7 October 2015 at 16:21,
> <gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu> wrote:
> 
>> I am not against change, if it's driven by a real need. What I dislike
>> is changing the GUI [in an app] not because we want to change it, not
>> because we want to have a better GUI or want to exploit the new
>> features, but because the GUI has a newer version and the old version
>> we use is simply obsolete and will not be easily available in the near
>> future.
>>
> 
> What you describe here happened to qucs when qt3 faded.

That's why the only qucs package available in the debian distro is from 
oldoldstable (squeeze). That is, almost dropped to the archive. Its 
version represents the state of qucs of 2010.

Interestingly, there is a PPA for ubuntu.
http://qucs.sourceforge.net/install.html#install_ubuntu
I will try to install it on my pool of geda desktops. Will report the 
mileage.

As a side note: 
Geda currently provides good support to schematic capture and layout. But 
it lacks a readily available intuitive interface to simulation. By 
contrast, the one thing qucs can do well, is simulation. Schematic capture 
is a bit cumbersome. PCB layout is a long term goal far beyond the current 
horizon.

Doesn't this sound like an opportunity to cooperate on application level? 
I imagine a work-flow similar to gschem->pcb: 

 1) gschem: capture schematic. Have symbols contain a model attribute.
 2) qucs: import schematics from geda
 3) qucs: add drivers and probes
 4) qucs: simulate
 5) mull over wave forms
 6) gschem: change values, add that crucial capacitor
 7) qucs: update schematics from geda
 8) goto 4)

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