I agree with John - I can not justify using beta software in= a production environment. This is not to say I do not have bleeding edge b= inaries on a spare machine...

On Oct 9, 2015 12:41 PM, "John Doty" &= lt;jpd AT noqsi DOT com> wrote:

On Oct 9, 2015, at 10:11 AM, Don Wooton (dtwooton AT gmail DOT com) [via g= eda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda= -user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

> Or most debian users do not participate in popcon.
>
> And anyone who has used geda/pcb for more than a little while
> gets a current version from source.

I disagree. When I=E2=80=99m working on sketches of new projects, I often w= ork from the latest, but for things intended to go to production I=E2=80=99= ll use a stable, distributed version. This is especially true when I=E2=80= =99m collaborating with others: I=E2=80=99ll point them to a distributed ve= rsion. They generally don=E2=80=99t want to be beta testers.

>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Don
>
> On Oct 09, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu<= /a> propounded certain bytes, to wit:
>> Subject: Re: [geda-user] GTK3, Glade interface designer (router, a= uto?)
>>
>> On Fri, 9 Oct 2015, Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 09, 2015 at 09:03:27AM +0300, Sabin Iacob (iacobs AT m0n5t3r DOT info) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> A good approximation might be Debian's and Ubuntu'= s popcon data:
>>>>
>>>> Debian:
>>>>
>>>> pcb: https://qa.debian.org/popcon.p= hp?package=3Dpcb
>>>> gaf: https://qa.debian.org/pop= con.php?package=3Dgeda-gaf
>>>
>>> kicad: https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php= ?package=3Dkicad
>>>
>>> It is interesting that popularity of geda-gaf and kicad in Deb= ian is
>>> nearly the same.
>>
>> Or (I was speculating) the users who chose kicad over geda also te= nd to
>> chose ubuntu over debian, so I checked:
>>
>> Ubuntu:
>> #rank name=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 inst=C2=A0 vote=C2=A0 =C2=A0old r= ecent no-files 9654
>> kicad-common=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A023878=C2=A0 =C2=A0 75 23451=C2=A0 =C2=A0 33=C2=A0 =C2=A031= 9 9700=C2=A0 kicad
>> 23599=C2=A0 =C2=A0 75 23474=C2=A0 =C2=A0 34=C2=A0 =C2=A0 16
>>
>> Maybe active ubuntu+kicad users are not installing kicad from pack= age. Or
>> maybe kicad users don't use debian or ubuntu.
>> -- End of excerpt from geda= u AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu'
>

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