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On Mon, 5 Oct 2015, Dave McGuire (mcguire AT neurotica DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:

>  But they're not working toward the project, they're working on pet
> ports that nobody else will ever see.  How is that helpful to anyone,
> least of all gEDA/PCB users?

Or they are not working on something that ends up in /dev/null with 0 
users but something that at least they can use. Once you start to take the 
real options into account, and the real effect of the choices, they start 
to make sense.

>
>> I get that you are frustrated but remember we are not entitled to
>> dictate how other people spend their time.
>
>  Of course not, and I would never suggest otherwise.  I would simply
> like to point out that a bunch of brouhaha comprising
> multi-hundred-message threads like those that have exploded onto this

Note: you are contributing to that at the moment.

> list in the past several weeks are accomplishing little other than
> proving that there can be no consensus here.
>
>  Personally I treat this a bit like the existence of "goto" in C: It is
> never, ever intended to actually be used in code.  It is a "sign post".

Do you have any reference on this? I mean a quote from the guys who 
actually developed C and added goto in the first place? Or is is just your 
guess?

<snip>

>  This may result in meaningful forward progress, it may result in total
> abandonment of the project, or somewhere in between.  But at least we
> won't be gyrating into inaction (other than wasted effort like YET MORE
> FORKS!) like has been happening for the past several weeks.

Your contribution this week seems to be more wasted effort to me than my 
fork. If you think it over, this means what one find waste may be useful 
for others. I am sorry if you can't realize that and say everything is a 
waste that is not doing exactly what you want.