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Subject: Re: [geda-user] GTK3, Glade interface designer (router, auto?)
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On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 12:34 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak
<knaak AT iqo DOT uni-hannover DOT de> wrote:
> Stefan Salewski wrote:
>
>> The real hard part is, that people really do not like autorouters
>> generally,
>
> I don't like auto routers which fail on my boards ;-)
> My biggest concern with what the toporouter could demonstrably do is that
> it is/was a game of all or nothing. You could not tell the router to
> restrict itself to some routes picked by me. And more troublesome, it was
> not able to play nice with tracks and vias already put in place by me.
> Both are hard deal breakers for me.

The problem has 2 parts
1. People who do layout keep all kinds of information in their heads
that never makes it onto a schematic.
2. There are compromises that you can make in layout that are not
always obvious when you are making the schematic.

>> and most really do not like curved traces.
>> Anthony already wrote that most people told him that.
>
> Well, I remember quite some "awsome!" shouts on the list every time the
> toporouter produced some new results.

Yea I was one of those. I still think it is cool.

> We did not do a poll on whether people like or dislike topo router style
> traces back then. And Igors2 question was in no way a proper poll on
> peoples priorities for the direction of future development, either.

A lot of them also involved the puller which curved stuff.

>> They seem to like push and shove much better.
>> So I have no real hope that more than about five people would use the
>> router, even if it would work fine.
>
> My prophecy: If you can fix the two issues I mentioned above, people will
> start to test and love your toporouter. And soon curvy shaped tracks will
> be hallmark of boards done with geda.

I like that but I find it unlikely.

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