X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=DHg0rRhbtZkBT3zpdirZRbxiO29EVgahddAsp9JNvMA=; b=VR2p0BRU16qfSLRxHLDln/Y442lBDVB+rcuIPCK//DE5qZmkeuwbd2/yGMTFeHr+L0 DalL+luB+QmCZw4DahSqK+0wLOF4Ifu5EP7DlxI4LVDaUzAEvCf0/95Dgk+qb46pS5bx KKOhpFRetG89fwnDA4VR5lvdmAwZRsYmlhrkxF0Y6keB1VpNT86vKs4i3vjyGxZgDRJN HLzqQKBFJcGhQtnTquMxW3H+C1XkCGKK8gORVfMNgBhEEVsH8LeOzBXaLpIz5OxwRKXA atmeVymbLva2pDRPUMqEHy1Ghc7yI2EUmQkYqjbnWWjgd6B0qFwsKtyomRk5dgSQYhO9 qHQA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.205.138 with SMTP id lg10mr10250823lbc.74.1444072111041; Mon, 05 Oct 2015 12:08:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1444070851.1014.20.camel@ssalewski.de> References: <20151003210701 DOT de392b925f54dadb0a5fedd8 AT gmail DOT com> <1443903758 DOT 1873 DOT 13 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <56104A0A DOT 9020507 AT xs4all DOT nl> <1443909591 DOT 1873 DOT 18 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <1443975731 DOT 671 DOT 52 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <20151004191717 DOT bf8223417541a9306bfbd9ea AT gmail DOT com> <1443997480 DOT 2068 DOT 32 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <1444070851 DOT 1014 DOT 20 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 15:08:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] GTK3, Glade interface designer (router, auto?) From: "Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: gEDA users mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > On Sun, 2015-10-04 at 18:38 -0800, Britton Kerin > (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > >> > >> >> I think pcb has defaults for these, and saves them in each file also >> as >> overrides. So they could be gotten from an existing pcb file. Or is >> making the router implement different parameters the hard part? >> > > No, it is not hard. But at least for older gschem/gnetlist versions it > was not possible to transfer net attributes like "power" or "10mil" > direct to PCB. The example picture on my page already has traces of two > different widths, I think I added them manually to the netlist file -- > can not really remember. > > The real hard part is, that people really do not like autorouters > generally, and most really do not like curved traces. Anthony already > wrote that most people told him that. My feeling is, that this is very > true in the hobby area, and also for small companies doing simple > boards. And that would be the target audience for an open source router, > at least at the beginning. They seem to like push and shove much better. > So I have no real hope that more than about five people would use the > router, even if it would work fine. But I think I will continue working > on the router at some time again, it is not very difficult and it is > much fun. > > [...] To be honest I was surprised when I threw that developer excitement thread out there that people wanted back annotation while push and shove routing did not even get a mention. -- Home http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ Work http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/