X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at av02.lsn.net Message-ID: <5611BC63.6030408@ecosensory.com> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2015 18:55:15 -0500 From: John Griessen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] GTK3, Glade interface designer (router, auto?) References: <20151003210701 DOT de392b925f54dadb0a5fedd8 AT gmail DOT com> <1443903758 DOT 1873 DOT 13 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <56104A0A DOT 9020507 AT xs4all DOT nl> <1443909591 DOT 1873 DOT 18 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <1443975731 DOT 671 DOT 52 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> <20151004191717 DOT bf8223417541a9306bfbd9ea AT gmail DOT com> <1443997480 DOT 2068 DOT 32 DOT camel AT ssalewski DOT de> In-Reply-To: <1443997480.2068.32.camel@ssalewski.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com On 10/04/2015 05:24 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: > On Sun, 2015-10-04 at 13:16 -0800, Britton Kerin ( > britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [viageda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: . . . now some serious efforts >> >are being considered to make a much more accessible file format (via sql and >> >YAML) so it could be provided as a stand-alone tool that would be useful to >> >pcb users. >> > > If the router could route all traces, we could simply import the traces. > That is what I did for the example picture. Better is a very basic GUI > tool, where we can move elements and grab rubberbands and move them. One way to do a workflow for an autorouter would be to export an outline of the area to route up to, including some metal layer pieces with netnames to connect to, and all components in that same area. Then use the autorouter to route those, and its own minimal WYSIWYG GUI editor to push, shove, place partial routed stuff and restart, etc. Then import all the pieces you like relative to something. Relative to the centerline endpoint of a trace you copied from the pcb layout would be an easy way. Then when you have the new stuff placed, do optimize rats and see if it is good. Oh, for that scenario to work well, the selected footprints to route between would be cut, then exported, then imported again, or there would be two of each footprint.