X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=VD4ekFzeDoFd3Q28TMKsGCMEt2ETG8+hp/THtsVbZ4o=; b=sCCRi2TnaM4EUJkrW8WatLs5fgvOu5jmUun/YQ+KQZ84ww8M44M5uzUFCeqmLS1Ntf qfuE/1/PVk0ddkjUvZArZ2Yfyvl+TwJYbBkn1KYiqNYJVYdfgu0rLd76Cv7xd1qY3arw ZZZY6Rs1srsM4Xl2qnfvX8wt7BC/DpQafadHzo7mmBL2PGKIQFqmCSOC/1wMJDJtbaKh eWhctGBbbp1Nv0rXPn213EmqvoANF0dRGtoCybdZnJX5J7/Vd2HX9Fw+6Dv2ijbwIDWI WbznUFSiYxH3FYzqvDyYrqCjeYr/ZuXJdJkNQxcuOW7+nZ2bzztbtR82o9yQjY42S5A+ EgQg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.198.198 with SMTP id je6mr8935560lbc.31.1443930159438; Sat, 03 Oct 2015 20:42:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <560DB972 DOT 30203 AT jump-ing DOT de> <201510012306 DOT t91N6MXc027775 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <560DCC35 DOT 9010505 AT jump-ing DOT de> <201510020041 DOT t920fM6o031268 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <560DE183 DOT 4060305 AT jump-ing DOT de> <5BF9C4DF-32C7-4C06-9F96-8F82C935254E AT sbcglobal DOT net> <560EAEE1 DOT 6020701 AT jump-ing DOT de> <3E72AC35-5862-41B9-A8FD-6804E89E9FFB AT sbcglobal DOT net> <20151003210144 DOT GA21262 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <56104E16 DOT 3050006 AT jump-ing DOT de> <20151003222928 DOT GC4287 AT localhost DOT localdomain> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 03:42:39 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] Stop playing stupid political games with gEDA From: "Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: gEDA users mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 3:22 AM, wrote: > > > On Sun, 4 Oct 2015, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via > geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > >> On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 2:48 AM, wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 4 Oct 2015, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via >>> geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Igor2 is off working on something using SDL because it is maintained >>>> but has a slower release cycle. The logical reason being that we don't >>>> really care about new gtk functionality but we have to burn time >>>> fixing things for each major gtk release. >>> >>> >>> >>> SPOLIER ALERT: I am not talking about gschem or pcb here; I don't say any >>> of >>> the geda tools should or should not use gtk. I just share my personal >>> opinion about using gtk in general. I won't respond to text that ignores >>> this. >>> >>> Yes, I think GTK is a bad idea long term (for any application), and it's >>> not >>> qt that'd solve this. My resoning goes: >> >> >> Google would agree with you they dumped it. >> >> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/03/12/0147256/google-to-replace-gtk-with-its-own-aura-in-chrome > > > Nice! http://developers.slashdot.org/story/14/01/16/1349203/intel-dev-gtks-biggest-problem-and-what-qt-does-better >>> - GTK doesn't look native on anything else than gnome. Most other >>> toolkits >>> have the same property: native only on one or on a few systems. So using >>> anything else doesn't make this worse or better. (If an app wants to look >>> native on multiple platforms, it needs multiple native GUI frontends, one >>> for each platform.) >> >> >> MATE is actively developed and based on GTK2 (migrating slowly to >> GTK3) because the users and developers like GNOME2 and hated using >> OpenGL for everything the way GNOME3 does. > > > SDL2 does this cleverly: you can chose, per window, to use software > rendering or acceleration, when you create the window. There are drawing > primitives that are compatible with both. I will make it possible for the > user to switch between sw rendering, hw accel and auto-select (default) at > application startup-time. Very nice. >> >> I said earlier on the geda-developers list that a good blue sky >> project would be giving geda a way to have multiple GUI's like pcb >> does with hid. > > > I second that. PCB benefits from having HIDs - not only because it makes it > easier to add a new HID, but I believe it made the code better by inserting > an API between the engine and the UI. I believe gschem could benefit the > same way. +1 > Regards, > > Igor2 -- Home http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ Work http://forge.abcd.harvard.edu/gf/project/epl_engineering/wiki/