X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=LbPiPskTc/4An4Bd8ZGLUHYIlYQ0amLYdUeIIoBLqE8=; b=i99hIYPw3EX6zWisd+aLGOohnclc8fHT6KLj8f2nH3ESqrdsF5ClM040NjFbDrrIXK CJ58bwoTTGb9yfoz04ihu3PefbmxEaCadOSsPOnVbBMWxARps0zjFIJzvimx5ao7y8XS Rjp5NbwrynFRHpGb1PF2Pvrl34A2Zy0U5GnEKH9RG/f3otnuvA6cVsdeD5t7GqJEW3H8 uhkgkwDDt0kWfmphT2tau42upzyBsCARzwmtcQhbgH4MS9BxdWqweNnnCv6Sbew5HWBe 675c6S6iDvS4BenqTkRCMrmouH/k5wN9gaLUQS/pAsVD3peTn6Pr/BEbFUuJ2BVXc2gJ HqnQ== X-Received: by 10.112.25.39 with SMTP id z7mr1078573lbf.102.1442518090266; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 12:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 22:28:08 +0300 From: "Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-developers AT lists DOT launchpad DOT net, geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [Geda-developers] PLEASE STOP !!! - Re: [geda-user] Apollon Message-ID: <20150917192808.GC5896@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: geda-developers AT lists DOT launchpad DOT net, geda-user AT delorie DOT com References: <20150917043146 DOT GA1837 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <20150917142035 DOT GA5896 AT localhost DOT localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 11:15:04AM -0400, Evan Foss wrote: ... > > Here [3] I wrote > > ======================================================================== > >> Even John Dotty seemed to agree that we need an alternative to scheme. > > Ahem.. I said this in the talk about C plugins not in refrence to > python. You are confusing me with Roland. Check the link. > (I agree with Roland, I just want the citations to be correct) Sorry for this, though I've not meant your words here, just my reaction on new circumstances (indeed, I talked about xorn). > > > Yes, yes, I could even agree ;) But not two parallel versions with new > > dependencies in one repository. How to support them? How to support > > cross-compiling in this case? There is another way. Let's make bindings > > for various languages since gobject model allows this. Let's introduce > > plugins/modules, and we already have modules in scheme. > > ======================================================================== > > Find me a user of any reasonably current desktop that does not have > python. I dislike python and yet I still have it. > > Besides he added the option to turn off xorn so python is an > *optional* dependency. > > OT: Ok so then why was having plugins in C a bad thing? It added no > additional dependencies. No, I've never said C plugins are a bad thing. I don't think so. > > Why should I? Tomorrow another user will say he/she prefers Lua and > > merge his/her library into the master branch without asking us. And what > > if someone decides to rewrite things in Haskel or bash 8-| > > Vladimir this is why this thread went off in search of a new project > leadership structure. > You wanted a group of devs voting. Why don't you subject yourself to > your proposed process via a vote on the developers list. I remember I have said I'm fully agreed with Peter Brett. I don't think there is a reason to continue voting while other devs ignored it and Peter and me total overwhelming majority :) But what does it change? Cheers, Vladimir