X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Message-ID: <55FA527F.7060604@xs4all.nl> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 07:41:19 +0200 From: "Bert Timmerman (bert DOT timmerman AT xs4all DOT nl) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110429 Fedora/2.0.14-1.fc13 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [Geda-developers] PLEASE STOP !!! - Re: [geda-user] Apollon References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda- > user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > > >> I understand that you have contributed meaningfully to this project but >> we need a team to be blessed by the powers that be. >> > In my very humble opinion, we need a working team in the first place. The > keyword here is "working" as opposed to let patches bit rot, not decide > weather or not a feature branch should get merged or abandoned, or not the > least, procrastinate releases and have no road map with goals for future > development whatsoever. Everything else should come second. > (Sorry for the harsh words. But realistically, the above characterizes the > progress of the geda project since about 2008 for the most part. Yes, > there were significant improvements in some areas and I am glad about it. > Else, I would have switched away since long. But seen from a distance the > progress looks glacially -- in particular when compared to projects like > freecad or kicad) > > > >> The blessing legitimizes the team. >> > Kings and popes need to be blessed... > > > >> With out a legitimate team the project will devolve back into people >> fighting on an email list >> > Sorry, but I have not seen developers seriously fighting on geda-user ever > since I started reading it in 2005/2006. The list geda-devel while it was > readable for mortal users was even more peaceful. > > > >> and even if code is written no release could ever be issued. gEDA will >> be known as that project with a million forks, >> > Being motivated and capable to contribute but locked out by the powers > that be constitutes a strong motivation to fork. This is more than pure > speculation. Remember, why Igor started his pcb-rnd? > > ---<)kaimartin(>--- > Hi Kai-Martin, I invite you to join the pcb bug team on their quest to squash bugs during the monthly code sprint on Sunday September 27th. I prepared a list of bugs we need to look into at: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/pcb/+spec/triage The gcode bugs you mentioned in another post are amongst them and have a prominent place in the list, to be triaged and worked upon. It is these bug reports: #1389527 GCode generator errors #1390439 GCode generator - wrong outline #1390442 GCode generator - missing mill/drillmill #1390450 GCode generator - drillmill is wrong #1390452 GCode generator - drill file is mirrored ---<)kaimartin(>--- I await your input on these bugs and hope to meet you on #geda. Kind regards, Bert Timmerman.