X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=+uLVfJgcnbMebwPsY2Z2Hnca/KDDj0HEq27R2yzG4Rk=; b=QVdXbRoXjQzSkqYgksPkZ6e3PSN8exeASl9t/cxqJoCyCUwns+CvkHyN/PgcWZPZzY FVw9sAeeTsxgKvKA7CcKrtsMJsZ2l4nWWZYhMydzHPwBZfl8SvOlgWVxRqQSXebm7Obp IiQ9Bcr1PK9YPxzc17a4QZgF0q4sPJowxJch+d4pxIh1C408HyP8tCccJ+OjsLzgv1UU Ng7k6QyyEcgPQG3EIbZRndKRfQhHRo2l/xNOdrqorwT/Rxe79Zfq1DSpbeht++s3dFp4 PuugX5huh8Z+xBWAOQIY55FmnuBh1u8G2VlnnxBEouHSKtODXpY2o+p/jeYbLGqQTKJA GrOA== X-Received: by 10.112.184.137 with SMTP id eu9mr11674552lbc.21.1441525933508; Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 10:52:11 +0300 From: "Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] New experimental netlist features Message-ID: <20150906075211.GC2637@localhost.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com References: <55E97A3E DOT 2070402 AT jump-ing DOT de> <69B8B3F4-A6E4-43E9-9055-C63A5D6A3707 AT noqsi DOT com> <55E9BD63 DOT 8070407 AT jump-ing DOT de> <201509051930 DOT t85JUlTh019874 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20150905210158 DOT GC7185 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <201509052107 DOT t85L7sHL024299 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <20150905213959 DOT GE7185 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <201509052353 DOT t85Nru1P030401 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201509052353.t85Nru1P030401@envy.delorie.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Sat, Sep 05, 2015 at 07:53:56PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > > > Does this mean we should replace Guile with Python? > > I wasn't talking about the technical innards of the tools. I was You've done this in another post, talking about stagnation. > talking about how we present those tools to the users, how we run our > community, about addressing the age-old problems that plague new > users, etc. Turning a heaping pile of disjoint functionality into > something useful and easy to learn so that we're able to attract new > users. Yes, yes, yes. All this requires someone will spend his/her time on this. Everytime I read all these curses on Scheme, I understand many of the unhappies did not ever tried to read the doc we have and to write any small code fragment. And every time this happens I feel less and less motivation to do something in this direction, though I've some useful things written in scheme and they help me much while working in gschem. > If a particular problem can only be solved by changing some innards, > then so be it, but the innards change is just a side-effect. I don't mind. Just let's do it step by step, saving all the fruit we already have, not destroying anything in a favour of new tools. Cheers, Vladimir