X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 63.119.35.194 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] Buttons for automation (obligatory grab at our shared 3rd rail) Re: [geda-user] Antifork From: John Doty In-Reply-To: <55DB923F.1060807@jump-ing.de> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:27:52 -0400 Message-Id: <176EF6F6-264E-4F66-A52E-D9A3C3442B91@noqsi.com> References: <55DB923F DOT 1060807 AT jump-ing DOT de> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t7OMS0o1027920 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Aug 24, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Markus Hitter (mah AT jump-ing DOT de) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > Am 24.08.2015 um 23:05 schrieb Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]: >> This is an expert tool for expert users. Most of the people who are >> here now are here because they are also people who don't want to take >> their hands off the keys. > > Just in case somebody believes such stuff, especially the implication that it's a must to make tools hard and difficult to use: it's wrong. Agreed. Simplicity is what is needed. Adding features to a simple tool does not make it easier to use. > Tools not suitable for newbies never see experienced people, because these people did a different choice long before they reached such a state of knowledge. What you want is simple, regular tools. Every unnecessary feature puts a cognitive burden on the user. It’s nonlinear: two features are more than twice the burden of one. Viewlogic had many of the cool features that some want to add to gschem, including buttons to do this and that. These made it harder to learn and use, not easier. I do not want to go back: gschem is far more productive. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com